Out with the new (Freeday) In with the old (Freeday)

[Kachowski]

So, I think me and lots of others can agree that the new freedays are, well, boring. I recently made a post on the csgo section to get some quick feedback on this topic. I would like to see the "old freedays" come back allowing us to kill the cts again. Cts could once again restrict certain movements and call the infamous "Burga Freedays". I would love to see the addition of being able to fight with the cts once again in some way, or some new addition to freedays to spice it up. Currently most people call it to annoy people or because of rebeling. Most of the time its just bland because sure you can play games (if you even find that fun in the first place) and eventually you're gonna play every game on a map. Overall I don't enjoy it and i'm sure others can agree with me. If u agree (or disagree) lemme know, thanks!

 

[Kachowski]

Maruchan the type of dude to be one of the first people to +1 then come back a month later and -1

 

[BeastTheNinja]

so this thread have been opend a long time dont you think the people have talked the talk, so my final answer is yeah get the new freeday back, for this freeday is more toxic than actually fun kuantum you know what i talk about here

 

[kuantum]

If it's a toxic day, then it should have been reverted months ago. I get there is a big chain of command who handles this kind of stuff but it's really getting old seeing people groan and complain about it.

I still stand on the fact that it's a fun type of day for people like me and people aren't like me. I would prefer to see current freedays renamed to Skittles Day and old freedays thrown back into the mix.

I think this thread has run its course and needs to resolved sometime soon.

 

[CtrlAltDelicious]

I'm neutral when it comes to the current free day. The ability to roam the map, play games and refresh my beverage is always great. However, that can get rather old really quick.

I believe that we've hit rock bottom with the current free day and I too would like to see the old and highly fabled free day added back. I'm sure that both our CS LE and TT will have this wrapped up soon.

 

[Zero]

When a special day is basically only called when the guards think prisoners have been rebelling too much and everyone in chat always complains you know it needs to be changed

 

[kuantum]

You can say that first part on about all special days Z Zero

 

[EpicFlamingos]

If it's a toxic day, then it should have been reverted months ago. I get there is a big chain of command who handles this kind of stuff but it's really getting old seeing people groan and complain about it.

I still stand on the fact that it's a fun type of day for people like me and people aren't like me. I would prefer to see current freedays renamed to Skittles Day and old freedays thrown back into the mix.

I think this thread has run its course and needs to resolved sometime soon.

To be fair, people were begging for forever to have it be like this. One of those times where you gotta take a lot longer to see how it goes first before changing it back.
I will say, my stance on this is that it should really go back, or have there be an option when the warden selects Freeday in the menu to choose between what kind of freeday he wants.

 

[Jacko]

Wardens should have the option to choose "custom" freedays where its like old school freedays or choose the freeday we currently have where it makes everyone immune to damage. Having options is great

 

[mary]

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The problem here is that would not eliminate the problem of wardens calling it for the intention of trolling. This thread was not created because we love the old freeday, it's because we hate the new one and K Kachowski can agree with me on this. The only people who call freedays at this time call it for one of 3 reasons:

1. Attention
2. Punishment for rebelling (which, on a side not, is literally the name of the game - Jailbreak)
3. Trolling
... and keep in mind allowing the option between the two freeday styles would not stop anyone with these mindsets from calling the freeday and ruining the enjoyment of 95% of the server.

Allowing wardens to choose between the two would be useless in actually eliminating the idea of trolling with a freeday. In order for the freeday to become enjoyable again is for to be reverted or remastered in a fashion that compromises with both ends. One example could be a peacetime, for example, 90 seconds after a freeday is called until damage can be taken by CTs. This will give you time to go to the bathroom quick or refresh your beverage while coming back in time to continue your freeday. This would also allow rebellers to get guns and good positions to begin rebelling, and all around I feel this is a solid compromise. 90 seconds is enough to complete most climbs and surfs.

 

[Jacko]

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The problem here is that would not eliminate the problem of wardens calling it for the intention of trolling. This thread was not created because we love the old freeday, it's because we hate the new one and K Kachowski can agree with me on this. The only people who call freedays at this time call it for one of 3 reasons:

1. Attention
2. Punishment for rebelling (which, on a side not, is literally the name of the game - Jailbreak)
3. Trolling
... and keep in mind allowing the option between the two freeday styles would not stop anyone with these mindsets from calling the freeday and ruining the enjoyment of 95% of the server.

Allowing wardens to choose between the two would be useless in actually eliminating the idea of trolling with a freeday. In order for the freeday to become enjoyable again is for to be reverted or remastered in a fashion that compromises with both ends. One example could be a peacetime, for example, 90 seconds after a freeday is called until damage can be taken by CTs. This will give you time to go to the bathroom quick or refresh your beverage while coming back in time to continue your freeday. This would also allow rebellers to get guns and good positions to begin rebelling, and all around I feel this is a solid compromise. 90 seconds is enough to complete most climbs and surfs.

I think you're blowing it out of proportion. There will be restrictions on how often or consecutive you can call each special day so it wouldn't allow Wardens from doing it 24/7. I understand that as a T the current Freeday is trash because of how mundane it is but as a CT player we sometimes want to play a map game without having to wait for LR or swapping over to T.

Back then Hunger games was the CT's way of having their own freeday while the T's killed eachother but since it was removed the current freeday we have replaced this. However, it's really important for the core of Jailbreak and have an option to call a "custom" special day or freeday to allow the RPG style of the game to continue existing.

I think we should remove zombie day and replace it with "Custom Special Day" to allow Wardens to do a Hide n Seek, Old school Freeday, etc. I still think Wardens should have the option to call the No Damage Freeday as well.

 

[mary]

I think you're blowing it out of proportion. There will be restrictions on how often or consecutive you can call each special day so it wouldn't allow Wardens from doing it 24/7. I understand that as a T the current Freeday is trash because of how mundane it is but as a CT player we sometimes want to play a map game without having to wait for LR or swapping over to T.

Back then Hunger games was the CT's way of having their own freeday while the T's killed eachother but since it was removed the current freeday we have replaced this. However, it's really important for the core of Jailbreak and have an option to call a "custom" special day or freeday to allow the RPG style of the game to continue existing.

I think we should remove zombie day and replace it with "Custom Special Day" to allow Wardens to do a Hide n Seek, Old school Freeday, etc. I still think Wardens should have the option to call the No Damage Freeday as well.

If I was blowing it out of proportion, there wouldn't be nearly 6 pages of people complaining about an obvious problem on the server. I am just emphasizing it to the degree it needs to be emphasized to, it is a problem and I proposed a solution that we can all get behind. It will take an additional 90 seconds for all CTs and Last CT to die on most rounds, and with the initial 90 seconds its a 3 minute round of freeday which is nearly what we have now- but with compromise. I agree with the custom special day completely, but there would need to be criteria and rules on what a customized special day can consist of.

 

[Corrupted]

Back then Hunger games was the CT's way of having their own freeday while the T's killed eachother but since it was removed the current freeday we have replaced this. However, it's really important for the core of Jailbreak and have an option to call a "custom" special day or freeday to allow the RPG style of the game to continue existing.

If HG has to come back so the old freeday comes back, then I wouldn't mind personally. HG wasn't that bad tbh, yea it was wardens way of getting back on the T's for rebeling or whatever but it's better than the new freeday because in the new freeday you got no action (or what ya wanna call it), atleast in hg you can do something, fight other t's for LR.

But if we were to add back HG could we make it so that 2 other special days have to be called before doing it, so that wardens cant just do noscope day and then hg and do that 24/7.

 

[Damon]

I personally preferred the old Freeday, that's probably just the rebeller in me talking but it is what it is. However, I don't really agree with removing the current Freeday all together. Having the ability to call an "actual" Freeday has been something people have wanted for a long time. A suggestion I've seen multiple people make in this thread is to keep the current Freeday and add back the old one as an alternative option, which I think is a great idea and a pretty solid middle ground when it comes to this thread.

As for Warden's calling a Freeday just because people are rebelling, I suggest making this "Server Disruption". Freeday isn't meant to be used as a "Save my ass" feature in the first place. I feel this would somewhat help balance out the trolls and such.

 

[mary]

I personally preferred the old Freeday, that's probably just the rebeller in me talking but it is what it is. However, I don't really agree with removing the current Freeday all together. Having the ability to call an "actual" Freeday has been something people have wanted for a long time. A suggestion I've seen multiple people make in this thread is to keep the current Freeday and add back the old one as an alternative option, which I think is a great idea and a pretty solid middle ground when it comes to this thread.

As for Warden's calling a Freeday just because people are rebelling, I suggest making this "Server Disruption". Freeday isn't meant to be used as a "Save my ass" feature in the first place. I feel this would somewhat help balance out the trolls and such.

so how will we differentiate the server disruption from non server disruption? this type of admin discretion against troublesome players causes more trouble and conflict. this will not go well


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[Damon]

so how will we differentiate the server disruption from non server disruption? this type of admin discretion against troublesome players causes more trouble and conflict. this will not go well


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The post wasn't necessarily meant to focus on that suggestion, although I really don't see any issues arising from it being implemented. It isn't all that hard to tell whether or not a Warden calls a Freeday just to save himself or not. I see this as admins just needing to be vigilant and use common sense when it comes to enforcing it.

This isn't really meant to spark any debates, at the end of the day it's just a suggestion.

 

[Polack]

Wardens holdin the L right now

 

[Kachowski]

Its been a few days since this post had something in it. Just wanted to remind everybody to change it to the old freeday!

 

[Arbiter]

My understanding is that Thorgot is looking into this. He just started yesterday so give him some time. I’m not CS LE but this is just from our conversations back and forward. I agree the current Free day should be adjusted.

 

[Larry_Da_Lobster]

K Kachowski

After seeing the large feedback from the post and a large amount of support from almost the ENTIRE community this has been implemented. Although, the old freedays were not removed there have been new freeday options added. These options are autohop freeday, low gravity freeday, and EVERYONE'S favorite Custom Freeday (DAMAGE ENABLED EZ rebooble). I want to thank everyone for their patience and support on this topic. Your suggestions and opinions don't go unnoticed. For more information on server changes go here. I hope you all enjoy the changes

Show some love to Tech team as they played a key role in this process!

~Implemented