[JB] dealing with ghosts blocking bullets

thorgot

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The ghost plugin is, safe to say, controversial. But nobody has a problem with it existing, it's just the annoying side effect of ghosts occasionally blocking bullets. I've been thinking about this the last few weeks, and the plugin going back on the JB server precipitated this post. Here are some ideas which we could implement some of to help mitigate ghosts blocking bullets:

  • Once you block X bullets or take Y damage, you are banned from using ghost for 15 minutes. This is announced to admins so they can warn or take further action if necessary and announced to the player who did the shooting so they can keep shooting.
  • Ghosts have small skull symbol sprites displayed above where they are. (This one might not be possible with our ghost plugin.)
  • Ghosts can only be in areas where players are not. This can be enforced by teleporting them away to spawn if they go too close to a player.
  • Only X players may be in ghost at once. (Fewer people to try to admin.)
  • Only DS or eGO members can be in ghost. (They have more to lose if they break the rules.)

Would some combination of these fix the problem? Do you have any ideas?
 
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back when ghost was originally added, i suggested restricting it to ds. it would fix a lot of the issues that arise as people that pay money are less likely to break the rules. i still think it's a good idea if the problem of ghosts blocking others gets bad. i also like the idea of having something above a ghosts location for dead admins or something (perhaps the skull thing and their name if possible, like +cl_show_team_equipment 2) to make it easier to admin.
 
Great suggestions. Ghost is a fantastic plug-in and as you mentioned the main problem people have with it is the side-effects.

Teleporting ghosts back to spawn if they go near an alive player will mitigate most of the bullets being blocked. If spectating admins are able to see ghosts names this will also reduce ghosts from further disrupting the server.

+1 to DS only getting !ghost commands. Jailbreak is eGO's most popular CS server and making !ghost an exclusive DS option will increase overall donators to the community. If there is a method to see who is a ghost DS will be more careful in attempting to disrupt the servers as they can be punished. Reducing the amount of ghosts will prevent mass disruption and allow for admins to carefully monitor the server.
 
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I'm not opposed to the DS Ghost idea, but I believe you might anger people with this change. Ghost has been a stand out feature for JB and having players to pay $5/month when they didn't have to before probably won't make them happy.
 

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