After seeing a preggo lady jump into a pit of needles (I don't remember what # that was in)
She wasn't pregnant, and she was pushed into the pit of needles, that was the second movie.
I think this series constitutes as horror, the ending to the first one is one of the few that actually creeped me out, but I didn't really see a sequel working. It was... OK but it seemed like a cash in, which it pretty much was. 3 seemed that way too, dunno why but I felt I had to go on. 4.... oh god was 4 horrible... I'm going to see 5 when it comes out on TV; I am pissed though that apparently 'it goes on.' It should've ended at #3 when THE MAIN VILLAIN DIES. I'm sorry, but when the bad dude dies, its THE END. Plus, the tagline for 5 was 'You won't believe how it ends.' If it ends with another set-up for a sequel, I can believe it pretty damn well, but thats false advertising because a sequel set up is NOT AN ENDING. Blargh X_x
As far as the torture being 'entertainment' I think it depends on how you look at it. Okay, I found the first film 'entertaining' but only because it seemed new at the time before a bajillion sequels, and it genuinely creeped me out. I found pleasure in the fact that I was actually bothered/scared, not found pleasure in the idea of people getting tortured. I will admit, sometimes violent fantasies
do entertain me, most notably the game Postal 2, but would I want to see them in real life? No. Just seeing a person bite their finger in real life makes me nauseous, and the one time I saw someone killed I flipped. I do not find enjoyment in watching that sort of thing in real-life, and I think its sick if someone does. Even with this 'better effects,' I don't think its coming any closer to being realistic. Besides, unless its a 'true story,' movies
SHOULDN'T be realistic. Realism defeats the point of fiction, and the reason we watch movies, read books, and play games is to escape realism and wander into a realm of fiction. And going back to torture in horror films, the only time I have ever found 'entertainment' in the actual torture scenes is if they are done so bad, so unrealistically that I can't help but laugh; but thats a completely different type of movie. The only movie to literally
terrify me was the Japanese romance/drama/horror film
Odishion, and while the entire nightmare sequence is damn creepy, its the torture sequence that scares me. I like to be scared (Well, when I first watched this movie it was to a degree I didn't like O_O, but heh, I'm still glad I found a movie that could scare me) a lot, and maybe its the fact that I can hardly ever be scared, but I found this part entertaining because it managed to scare me,
not because of the torture. Not ALL people who watch Saw films are in it just to look at the torture and say 'Hey, that's cool! People are dying in AGONY!' and while unfortunately that crowd exists, the reason people watch these is its because its very likely the premise
scares them. The purpose of horror is to
scare people. Some people are probably
scared by the Saw films, so they go to see more. The only reason I've continued through the series, is I have to have my proper ending. If it reaches Saw X though, I'll probably stop. Okay, theres my rant, I'm done ranting too. /rant