Suiciding during LR on Jail

Do you think it's disrespectful for CTs to suicide before/during LR?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 32.0%
  • No

    Votes: 17 68.0%

  • Total voters
    25
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Dot350

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I've noticed lately more and more CTs killing themselves once Ts say what they want their LR to be. I'm wondering who all thinks it's disrepesctful to the T who actually followed orders and survived for LR. So, do you think it's disrespectful for CTs to suicide before/during a LR?
 

xplag

Forum Addict
There is no such thing as "respect" in jail.

T's rebelling in Jail is "disrespectful" to the Warden. It's "disrespectful" to the dead players to draw out a map by running around and making the map take forever.

Yeah, the LR is something you have to work for, but unless someone is just suiciding to be a poor sport, it's all just part of the game.
 

Sequel Sentry

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+1

It's not really a problem of being disrespectful. Cts don't have much fun sitting around waiting to get killed, and tbh, it speeds up a round. After all, unless all but 1 suicide, it makes it easier to win.
 

Baen

I need to go outside
Well I don't think it should be allowed because if the whole CT team commits suicide, the T doesn't get the privilege he earned. If CT don't like playing trivia or something than don't go CT. I mean CTs boss around Ts all day and when a T gets to boss the CT the CT just decides no? That's unfair to me.
 

Shadow19

Website Brigadier
I don't think it should be allowed period. You make the excuse that you don't want to do trivia, well neither do the T's when the warden does, but they do it anyway to not die. Same goes for any LR. You go through a round following orders (unless you rebel) to get LR. It's pretty lame for several CT's to go ahead and suicide once you finally get the chance to boss them around. So CT's are okay with making sure the T's do what they are told, but when it comes time for them to follow orders, they don't want to? Seems like a pretty lopsided mentality to have. Maybe T's should start suiciding every round so they don't have to follow orders. But then what would we be left with?
 

Dot350

Rookie Poster
I don't think it should be allowed period. You make the excuse that you don't want to do trivia, well neither do the T's when the warden does, but they do it anyway to not die. Same goes for any LR. You go through a round following orders (unless you rebel) to get LR. It's pretty lame for several CT's to go ahead and suicide once you finally get the chance to boss them around. So CT's are okay with making sure the T's do what they are told, but when it comes time for them to follow orders, they don't want to? Seems like a pretty lopsided mentality to have. Maybe T's should start suiciding every round so they don't have to follow orders. But then what would we be left with?
Exactly. You described it perfectly.
 

LJ Coolio

Poster
I don't think it should be allowed period. You make the excuse that you don't want to do trivia, well neither do the T's when the warden does, but they do it anyway to not die. Same goes for any LR. You go through a round following orders (unless you rebel) to get LR. It's pretty lame for several CT's to go ahead and suicide once you finally get the chance to boss them around. So CT's are okay with making sure the T's do what they are told, but when it comes time for them to follow orders, they don't want to? Seems like a pretty lopsided mentality to have. Maybe T's should start suiciding every round so they don't have to follow orders. But then what would we be left with?
See but the difference is that if a T doesnt like orders he can choose to suicide (A choice i have made a number of times) But a T also has the option of rebeling, which can be very fun if done properly. A CT does not have a rebeling option unless he wants to quickly be revoked for freekilling. The reason i personally suicide on Octotag in particular is because an LR is supposed to be a challanging way for the T to eliminate the CT's not a free pass to killing without risking your own neck. Thus i always suicide on Octotag and Storytime, because its a waste of my time to wait and die
 

Dot350

Rookie Poster
See but the difference is that if a T doesnt like orders he can choose to suicide (A choice i have made a number of times) But a T also has the option of rebeling, which can be very fun if done properly. A CT does not have a rebeling option unless he wants to quickly be revoked for freekilling. The reason i personally suicide on Octotag in particular is because an LR is supposed to be a challanging way for the T to eliminate the CT's not a free pass to killing without risking your own neck. Thus i always suicide on Octotag and Storytime, because its a waste of my time to wait and die
But you spend 5+ mins bossing the Ts around. Least you can do is spend 3 mins or so to do a LR. It sucks when you get to LR, and 3 of the 5 CTs left suicide. Then you're left with 2 CTs to do your LR with.
 

frap

EGO Is My Life!
No, get better last requests if you dont want people to suicide. It's impossible to stop people from suiciding.

/thread
 

Shadow19

Website Brigadier
But you spend 5+ mins bossing the Ts around. Least you can do is spend 3 mins or so to do a LR. It sucks when you get to LR, and 3 of the 5 CTs left suicide. Then you're left with 2 CTs to do your LR with.
This. It's pretty simple, you spend all round giving orders, I think you can suck it up and follow an LR for 2 mins.
 

Dot350

Rookie Poster
See but the difference is that if a T doesnt like orders he can choose to suicide (A choice i have made a number of times) But a T also has the option of rebeling, which can be very fun if done properly. A CT does not have a rebeling option unless he wants to quickly be revoked for freekilling. The reason i personally suicide on Octotag in particular is because an LR is supposed to be a challanging way for the T to eliminate the CT's not a free pass to killing without risking your own neck. Thus i always suicide on Octotag and Storytime, because its a waste of my time to wait and die
This confuses me. You'd rather waste your time spectating but not doing a LR?

LR = Might be a waste of time but at least you get to do something
Suicide = Waste of time where you do nothing but watch other players.

What would happen if all the CTs suicide during LR? Or all but 1, thus last CT being able to obliterate the T?

I think the disrespectful thing about suiciding is when people say "this lr is fail" or something like that as they suicide. That's kinda like a slap in the face, especially if it's the person's first-time getting LR.
 

DanJK

EGO Is My Life!
=(eGO)=
This confuses me. You'd rather waste your time spectating but not doing a LR?

LR = Might be a waste of time but at least you get to do something
Suicide = Waste of time where you do nothing but watch other players.

What would happen if all the CTs suicide during LR? Or all but 1, thus last CT being able to obliterate the T?

I think the disrespectful thing about suiciding is when people say "this lr is fail" or something like that as they suicide. That's kinda like a slap in the face, especially if it's the person's first-time getting LR.
There must be 2 left at least for LR as suiciding and giving somone last CT is against the rules so if that happens it should be reported and dealt with.

As for the 3/5 or 5/7 suiciding, its allowed and I dont think that will change, Like somone said, T's have the option of suiciding aswell as rebelling and when a T suicides, the CT's think none of it so i think the T on last request should do the same and not care.

Also, like Frap said, do an LR that isnt just basically letting the T kill you like octo tag and the CT's wont suicide because they want to do it. You usually dont see someone suicide with s4s or m4 30 seconds because it is actually something fun to do. Also, you dont know how many times ive tried to play a game that involved 3 people, then one suicides, it just means you have to be creative and think of something else.
 

Vanilla

Poster
We don't sympathies with something that has no amount of originality or thinking power. Gee I think I will do what the last thousand Ts have done. CTs don't like to do that and if they miss out on it then they can deal with it. You should not take this as "Oh they are disrespecting me because they don't like my LR boo hoo." You should take it as "Hey people don't like this LR. Maybe I should try to do something that's exciting and they don't expect." Instead of wallowing in this whole cry-fest about how pathetic the LR is; try striving for something better.
 

Dot350

Rookie Poster
We don't sympathies with something that has no amount of originality or thinking power. Gee I think I will do what the last thousand Ts have done. CTs don't like to do that and if they miss out on it then they can deal with it. You should not take this as "Oh they are disrespecting me because they don't like my LR boo hoo." You should take it as "Hey people don't like this LR. Maybe I should try to do something that's exciting and they don't expect." Instead of wallowing in this whole cry-fest about how pathetic the LR is; try striving for something better.
Yes, but I see just as many people do Octotag as do CT Trivia, M4 30 secs, spray, S4S, or story time. I've never seen 5 Ts in a row do the same thing. In a way, you're taking away from a T that has earned a LR. Just because inmate A chooses to do CT Trivia over Octotag or something else, inmate A shouldn't get to do it with as many CTs as inmate B who does do Octotag or S4S? Octotag and S4S can take waaaaayyy longer than any round of CT Trivia.

I find S4S to be increadibly boring unless I am choosen to go, same with Octotag. M4 30 secs can also be boring. But, I do them because the T did follow my instructions and I can at least give him a LR. LR isn't suppose to be something fun for the CTs to do, LR is suppose to be something fun for the T to do to reward them for being good (and they can try to rebel if they wish). That's how I look at it at least.

Also, when it's 2 minutes passed 00 and lockdown's coming, you don't have much time to think of something exciting and unexpected. Especially so if you don't get LR that often.
 

Sequel Sentry

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Look, it's not that the LR has been done too much, it's more of that it's stupid.

Bad LRs:

Octotag-Running back and forth across a field while getting knifed.

Ct Trivia-Getting killed by guards who choose people to die because they knew an answer...

Storytime-Here's a touching story. The end.

Good Lrs:

S4S-Taking 1 shot back and forth at a prisoner til one dies, the reason people don't suicide is cause it's fun! You're not waiting for your death, you're being competitive. And it is actually more fun to watch than octotag when you are still alive.

Gun toss-Same, takes skill.

Knife Fight-Again, same, takes skill.

M4 30 secs-You get to search for a rabbelling prisoner, it's not like you sit there bored you're moving around looking for him.


Those are a few examples. There are more bad LRs and more good LRs, but notice why they are good and bad. It's not a free T killfest.

And personally, idc when Cts suicide. I find it funny. Also, I don't have to go through as many guards to win. I know that you may find it disrespectful...but you can't keep people from suiciding, unless it's to purposely give last ct privaleges.
 
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