Linux Or Windows OS??
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hah...who uses linux!? windows ftw!
I have openSuSE 10.2 on my laptop right now and I have Ubuntu 7.04 on one of my desktops and my work PC. They both have their strengths and weaknesses but I think I prefer openSuSE at this point because it is more complete out of the box. You don't have to install a bunch of libraries just to get one piece of software to work, although Ubuntu's Synaptic Package Manager definitely makes getting the required libraries easy on you. Oh yeah, and if you think Vista is flashy then take a look at Beryl or Xgl 
I use Linux at school, I go to a charter school so the Tech guy is able to install it on the computers and we use it for tech classes, like programing.
I use Fedora 7 on my Work Laptop....
a very smart man has stated some very wise words ^^^that guy, up above me
XP Pro S2
only way to go
only way to go
more like linSUX!
It's slowly but surely becoming more "user-friendly." In my opinion, in many ways, it's already user-friendly. But because of certain aspects (ie. driver support from vendors), it may not be so user-friendly. :/
Luckily for me, Ubuntu worked straight out of the box (graphics, wireless, etc).
But yeah... the FREE part is pretty attractive. And when I can get my fancy window effects and what not running smoothly (beryl, compiz) on my old laptop, it's cool beans.
Luckily for me, Ubuntu worked straight out of the box (graphics, wireless, etc).
But yeah... the FREE part is pretty attractive.
And when I can get my fancy window effects and what not running smoothly (beryl, compiz) on my old laptop, it's cool beans.thats the problem...until linux gets more market share hardware vendors won't spend the time developing drivers for their stuff.
While the FREE linux drivers are okay when the work :fingers crossed:, they could be a lot better. Linux only has about <2% market right now...to give you a gauge I think Mac has like >5%. Apple has always had trouble getting vendors to make drivers too. Even at 5% only a handful of game companies even bother to port to the Mac now. Its a world driven by $$$ and right now it would eat into their profits to support linux as well. Experience says that 80% of a software products cost is in maintenance, not the original development. Look at XP, microsoft has had to have a legion of developers writing patches since its release and for 3 more years...and that is a lot of $$$$.
Hopefully the hardware vendors will start writing drivers... I think it would take only one of them doing so to get the ball rolling, but I am not going to hold my breath for anytime soon. I am afraid that linux rung its bell too early, turned a lot of noobs off and missed the hype train to the big show. That said....I use linux servers all the time (the more successful arena for linux right now) and I am waiting (now for 10+ yrs) for hardware co to better support linux-type systems.
Cheers
While the FREE linux drivers are okay when the work :fingers crossed:, they could be a lot better. Linux only has about <2% market right now...to give you a gauge I think Mac has like >5%. Apple has always had trouble getting vendors to make drivers too. Even at 5% only a handful of game companies even bother to port to the Mac now. Its a world driven by $$$ and right now it would eat into their profits to support linux as well. Experience says that 80% of a software products cost is in maintenance, not the original development. Look at XP, microsoft has had to have a legion of developers writing patches since its release and for 3 more years...and that is a lot of $$$$.
Hopefully the hardware vendors will start writing drivers... I think it would take only one of them doing so to get the ball rolling, but I am not going to hold my breath for anytime soon. I am afraid that linux rung its bell too early, turned a lot of noobs off and missed the hype train to the big show. That said....I use linux servers all the time (the more successful arena for linux right now) and I am waiting (now for 10+ yrs) for hardware co to better support linux-type systems.
Cheers
Linux has a place in the world. For us we have a few security applicances and web servers that run Linux.
It's a nice open source/free alternative for some places that can't afford MS Products.
It works just fine. It also takes a slightly higher level of knowledge to keep working properly.
It's a nice open source/free alternative for some places that can't afford MS Products.
It works just fine. It also takes a slightly higher level of knowledge to keep working properly.
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Linux has a place in the world. For us we have a few security applicances and web servers that run Linux.
It's a nice open source/free alternative for some places that can't afford MS Products.
It works just fine. It also takes a slightly higher level of knowledge to keep working properly.
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What do you use for your firewall?
Linux has a place in the world. For us we have a few security applicances and web servers that run Linux.
It's a nice open source/free alternative for some places that can't afford MS Products.
It works just fine. It also takes a slightly higher level of knowledge to keep working properly.
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What do you use for your firewall?
I boot between Linux and Windows XP. For games, I use XP. For everything else, I use Linux. However, there are some you have to understand.
1) I use Firefox and Thnderbird in both OS's. This eases the mental processes because FF and TB are identical, regardless of the OS you're using.
2) For the very few times I use Office-like apps, Linux is fine.
3) I'm not interested in translucent windows and pointless animations, so I don't bother with Beryl/CompWiz, etc.
4) I'm not necessarily interested in upgrading my distro every time the manufacturer farts. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
5) I write Windows apps for a living, and I can run Visual Studio 2005 and other dev tools in Linux inside a VM.
6) I have never had a problem installing the nVidia drivers.
7) I've found that installing Linux is actually easier and less time consuming than installing XP when you consider that you have to install SP2 and all of the post-SP2 security fixes. This is actually a recent development.
The primary problem with Linux is drivers. The reason there's a problem with drivers is that hardware manufacturers are reluctant to give up trade secrets that are exposed through open source. The wholesale rejection of proprietary binary-only drivers by the Linux user population is counter-productive and pointless. They claim they want to take market-share from Microsoft, yet they stand in the way of that happening.
Recently, the kernel developers offered free development of Linux drivers to any hardware manufacturer that wanted to take advantage of those services. To date, I haven't heard of anyone that has taken the developers up on this offer.
One last thing (directed at both Linux and Windows zealots) - it serves no purpose to close your mind to alternatives and ridicule people with different opinions than your own regarding their OS of choice.
Oh yeah - I'm using Ubuntu...
1) I use Firefox and Thnderbird in both OS's. This eases the mental processes because FF and TB are identical, regardless of the OS you're using.
2) For the very few times I use Office-like apps, Linux is fine.
3) I'm not interested in translucent windows and pointless animations, so I don't bother with Beryl/CompWiz, etc.
4) I'm not necessarily interested in upgrading my distro every time the manufacturer farts. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
5) I write Windows apps for a living, and I can run Visual Studio 2005 and other dev tools in Linux inside a VM.
6) I have never had a problem installing the nVidia drivers.
7) I've found that installing Linux is actually easier and less time consuming than installing XP when you consider that you have to install SP2 and all of the post-SP2 security fixes. This is actually a recent development.
The primary problem with Linux is drivers. The reason there's a problem with drivers is that hardware manufacturers are reluctant to give up trade secrets that are exposed through open source. The wholesale rejection of proprietary binary-only drivers by the Linux user population is counter-productive and pointless. They claim they want to take market-share from Microsoft, yet they stand in the way of that happening.
Recently, the kernel developers offered free development of Linux drivers to any hardware manufacturer that wanted to take advantage of those services. To date, I haven't heard of anyone that has taken the developers up on this offer.
One last thing (directed at both Linux and Windows zealots) - it serves no purpose to close your mind to alternatives and ridicule people with different opinions than your own regarding their OS of choice.
Oh yeah - I'm using Ubuntu...
In my occupation I provide support and also install Windows XP and OSX. I don't think anything is easier to install than Windows but that may be due to the amount of times I've installed it (read: a lot). My work computer has Feisty and I run XP through VMWare.
At home, however, I tend to install different OSes on my older hardware just to learn and experiment. I only have one computer right now fit for gaming so the others are pretty much fair game. I have one with Xubuntu and I plan on running pfSense through a VM on that machine. I've installed 2003, Gentoo, SLED, FreeBSD, Solaris, and that's probably pretty much it and I find that it really boils down to how much experience you hve with those OSes and what you need to do that determines which one is better. Pretty much everything I need for school I can run on Linux without a problem.
I find that Ubuntu is the easiest to use but it's also the OS that I've used the most second to XP but for most of the standard apps that I run I run in XP due to my hardware not performing well with the overhead of the VM.
At home, however, I tend to install different OSes on my older hardware just to learn and experiment. I only have one computer right now fit for gaming so the others are pretty much fair game. I have one with Xubuntu and I plan on running pfSense through a VM on that machine. I've installed 2003, Gentoo, SLED, FreeBSD, Solaris, and that's probably pretty much it and I find that it really boils down to how much experience you hve with those OSes and what you need to do that determines which one is better. Pretty much everything I need for school I can run on Linux without a problem.
I find that Ubuntu is the easiest to use but it's also the OS that I've used the most second to XP but for most of the standard apps that I run I run in XP due to my hardware not performing well with the overhead of the VM.
