GPU recommendations

[Bushman6659]

hey guys I have a quick question about a gpu. I'm thinking about buying one for my computer because the one i have now kinda sucks :/ but im not really sure what to get. I want to spend somewhere between $200 and $250. I was lookin around on newegg for some and I found two that looked pretty decent. I don't know much about GPU's so I thought i would ask around before I bought anything

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130475
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143197

I found those two and they both seemed pretty good. The EVGA card had some better statistics but I was just curious if they would really be worth the extra $50 since they don't seem much better? If anyone could help me out here that would be great or if you guys could just reccomend some other nice video cards around that price range it would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

 

[shadows5631]

GTX 275 ftw

Haha it's the one I just ordered and waiting for it to get here.

The GTX 260 is really overclocked so it's good for the price.

 

[phalanx]

Neither of your links worked for me, but if you are wanting to spend $200-$250 i would suggest this card for the best "bang for your buck":

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150398&Tpk=xfx 260

If you don't mind having a card that runs a little hotter i suggest this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...4161298&cm_re=his_4890-_-14-161-298-_-Product

 

[PewPewBangBang]

Since your investing a decent amount of money into a GPU. I would recommend getting an ATI 5850 when they come into stock and the prices drop a bit. It will absolutely smoke the GTX 275 and GTX 260. Try not to invest in old technology especially when new cards have come out and are beginning to roll out.

If you must get an older card, get the ATI 4890 by HIS.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...4161298&cm_re=ati_4890-_-14-161-298-_-Product
And overclock the core over 1000mhz and such, there is a review that the guy got like 1025 core and 1200 memory. That is freaking fast compared to stock 850 mhz on a regular 4890. I believe the 4890 was the first card to pass the 1000mhz barrier which is insane.

The ATI 5850 are current like $300 and out of stock, don't buy it yet....they are supposed to be $260 but demand for them and low stock drove prices up like mad. The 5870 are going for like $400 when they should be $360/370.

My recommendation is wait for the 5850 cause the thing outperforms a GTX 285 and is an absolute monster. Plus its newer technology and supports DX 11 for when the games come out and such. Its also 40nm and even though it runs a bit hot it will still give decent overclocks to raise the performance even more. The 5850 kills the 4890 pretty much so go with this card if you can.

 

[Saeten]

Go for the 275.

 

[phalanx]

Since your investing a decent amount of money into a GPU. I would recommend getting an ATI 5850 when they come into stock and the prices drop a bit. It will absolutely smoke the GTX 275 and GTX 260. Try not to invest in old technology especially when new cards have come out and are beginning to roll out.

If you must get an older card, get the ATI 4890 by HIS.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...4161298&cm_re=ati_4890-_-14-161-298-_-Product
And overclock the core over 1000mhz and such, there is a review that the guy got like 1025 core and 1200 memory. That is freaking fast compared to stock 850 mhz on a regular 4890. I believe the 4890 was the first card to pass the 1000mhz barrier which is insane.

The ATI 5850 are current like $300 and out of stock, don't buy it yet....they are supposed to be $260 but demand for them and low stock drove prices up like mad. The 5870 are going for like $400 when they should be $360/370.

My recommendation is wait for the 5850 cause the thing outperforms a GTX 285 and is an absolute monster. Plus its newer technology and supports DX 11 for when the games come out and such. Its also 40nm and even though it runs a bit hot it will still give decent overclocks to raise the performance even more. The 5850 kills the 4890 pretty much so go with this card if you can.

You are comparing a new gen card to a card that has been out for a while. Not a fair comparison. The point to be made, dont waste money on old tech? When a 260 plays most games at 120+ fps, you really dont need much more power. Your eye cant distinguish a difference past 30FPS. At this point software is 2 years behind hardware. Unless you are an enthusiast, its safe to say the 260 or the 275 are safe choices. I dont believe there are any games out at the moment that require DX 11.

 

[reflex99]

And overclock the core over 1000mhz and such, there is a review that the guy got like 1025 core and 1200 memory. That is freaking fast compared to stock 850 mhz on a regular 4890. I believe the 4890 was the first card to pass the 1000mhz barrier which is insane.

mine when ever i would push it even 10mhz over 1000mhz it would be super unstable (crash every 10 min or so) but i did have the core set to 950mhz

then i set it back to default because i don't have any games that benefit for the overclock and it was just wasting heat and electricity.

 

[JunK]

actually there are games out that require dx11, but dx10.1 cards are compatible with dx11 except they do not perform as well as dx11 cards and i don't think they can use all of the features

 

[Ryken]

no point in discussing GPUs until you post what power supply you have.

 

[shadows5631]

DX11 seems like another hype to me. DX10 didn't even show a real big difference from DX9. I envy the people who bought an 8800 Ultra or a 9800GX2 when they came out ($450-550) and are still rocking it out. Heck even 8800gt's which were $300 at the time, and today still being a card to run just about everything maxed.

 

[PewPewBangBang]

You are comparing a new gen card to a card that has been out for a while. Not a fair comparison. The point to be made, dont waste money on old tech? When a 260 plays most games at 120+ fps, you really dont need much more power. Your eye cant distinguish a difference past 30FPS. At this point software is 2 years behind hardware. Unless you are an enthusiast, its safe to say the 260 or the 275 are safe choices. I dont believe there are any games out at the moment that require DX 11.

Ummm you can distinguish past 30 FPS pretty easily......you mean 60 FPS, 60 FPS is the max before you can't tell the difference, you can kind of notice it runs smoother though if your getting like 70+.
I said not to invest in older tech, im comparing them because Nvidia apparantly doesn't have their new cards out and it seems like they won't until a while. Theres nothing else to compare the new gen cards to....they are the only new gen cards lmao. The GTX 260 doesn't get 120+ max easily on most games...maybe old ones but it gets more like a solid 70-80 at 1680x1050, it depends wat resolution you play at and the settings.

 

[phalanx]

Ummm you can distinguish past 30 FPS pretty easily......you mean 60 FPS, 60 FPS is the max before you can't tell the difference, you can kind of notice it runs smoother though if your getting like 70+.
I said not to invest in older tech, im comparing them because Nvidia apparantly doesn't have their new cards out and it seems like they won't until a while. Theres nothing else to compare the new gen cards to....they are the only new gen cards lmao. The GTX 260 doesn't get 120+ max easily on most games...maybe old ones but it gets more like a solid 70-80 at 1680x1050, it depends wat resolution you play at and the settings.

Most movies run at 24-25FPS, at 30fps, granted no processing bottlenecks or lag you wont notice a difference in fluidity of motion in your games. Most games on consoles run 30-60 FPS, you don't need anything past 60FPS to be perfectly honest.

The 5800 series will take forever to go back down in price because everyone are hyping over them.

Hopefully ATI addressed the heat issues they had with the 4800 series and fixed it in the 5800. Heat kills parts :\

I dont know what games you play, but on World at War, the NVidia 9600GT, a midrange card, gets 90FPS on max settings at a 1680x1050 resolution. I can get a screen shot if you like. The GTX 260 will push at 120 FPS. If you play source games, youll get a lot more frames than that. This isnt the place to rant. The kid just wants to know what card to buy. I'll stick by my choice with the two cards i chose. And please notice. I picked an ATI card, so i have no hard feelings against them.

 

[reflex99]

Most movies run at 24-25FPS, at 30fps, granted no processing bottlenecks or lag you wont notice a difference in fluidity of motion in your games. Most games on consoles run 30-60 FPS, you don't need anything past 60FPS to be perfectly honest.

The 5800 series will take forever to go back down in price because everyone are hyping over them.

Hopefully ATI addressed the heat issues they had with the 4800 series and fixed it in the 5800. Heat kills parts :

I dont know what games you play, but on World at War, the NVidia 9600GT, a midrange card, gets 90FPS on max settings at a 1680x1050 resolution. I can get a screen shot if you like. The GTX 260 will push at 120 FPS. If you play source games, youll get a lot more frames than that. This isnt the place to rant. The kid just wants to know what card to buy. I'll stick by my choice with the two cards i chose. And please notice. I picked an ATI card, so i have no hard feelings against them.

sorry to continue to rant but,

games are rendered in REAL TIME movies are purely a display of prerecorded events. In a game the GPU has to figure out exactly what has to happen in a fraction of a second (i.e. you move the mouse it has to move your on-screen view accordingly). The 60FPS acts as a buffer to keep you from noticing lag that occurs at lower frame rates. If you dont believe me go to a source game type in console the command for max fps (max_fps i believe) and set it to 24 and tell me you don't notice some shuddering..


Likewise movies are the same every time, so the PC/dvd player/blu ray player/whatever can prefetch the frames rather than have to react in real time like in games, thus movies appear fluent at 24 FPS.

any questions just ask.

 

[FreakingHell]

sorry to continue to rant but,

games are rendered in REAL TIME movies are purely a display of prerecorded events. In a game the GPU has to figure out exactly what has to happen in a fraction of a second (i.e. you move the mouse it has to move your on-screen view accordingly). The 60FPS acts as a buffer to keep you from noticing lag that occurs at lower frame rates. If you dont believe me go to a source game type in console the command for max fps (max_fps i believe) and set it to 24 and tell me you don't notice some shuddering..


Likewise movies are the same every time, so the PC/dvd player/blu ray player/whatever can prefetch the frames rather than have to react in real time like in games, thus movies appear fluent at 24 FPS.

any questions just ask.

This.

 

[PewPewBangBang]

yea.......i don't think a 9600gt avgs 90 FPS on max settings at 1680x1050.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd5870_9.html
A GTX 285 only manages to pull out like 70.

w/e theres no reason to argue over such a small thing.

And yes i know prices won't go down for a while......limited supply + high demand = raised prices

Im just saying that he should go with the ATI 5800 series if he can and when the prices drop down a bit, probably by christmas hopefully they will drop.

 

[Ryken]

Remember too that source games are more cpu dependent than other games.

My rig (below w/ 9600gt) averages about 35-45fps in action in TF2, with medium settings at 1440x900.

 

[Vader]

A GTX 275 or a HD 4890 you could get easily for that price.

 

[IceGladiator]

275 would be my choice... but that's me.

 

[bakerthree]

pew pew left out the 5770 card that less than his two choises but out performs both of them and at neweggs.com only costs $169 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102858

 

[takeabyte]

no point in discussing GPUs until you post what power supply you have.

agree wholeheartedly.

I have a gtx 260 "superclocked edition"; I haven't tweaked any settings with it, and it runs pretty much everything w/out so much as a hiccup worth of loading times. 650 W power supply, soon upgrading to more power for SLI