Jail,Killing,Risk, And gain!

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Hello, oprah again with another jail thread!!! Yes another, Please don't delete this:P it took a lot of work lol. I am in a typing mood tonight (I wish school was back lol) (ps i think this is would be a great addition to the stickies or jail rules) just saying...

Ok all joking aside, were going to talk economics, yes jail CS:S has economics in it! Ok were doing risk vs gain or advantage vs disadvantage! Ok how does that pertain to jail? Well in real economics its basically its, is it worth the risk of putting these money (or bonds,etc) in to this account, for the amount I can get (gain). So is the gain worth the risk of possibly losing this money. (e.g. you put in $50,000 with the possibility of getting 1,000,000, but you could lose everything). Ok enough on that, that is a whole college course that we don't need to get into. How does this apply to jail you ask, well.....

Here is the situation (which BTW happened tonight)

The ts are in a line they are close together and told not to move, ok thats fine right? Wrong one guy either knifes on purpose or moves on accident, this is where it comes in, no think about it cts . Yeah you could try and kill this person but at what risk how many ts will die? Well the ct did not do that and he shoots 6 ts (which is not against the rules as it is crossfire) and he kills the t that moved , but was it worth the risk? Now was killing 5 good ts worth killing that 1 bad one? I think no you may think yes but next time think will it be an advantage to shoot this person and kill others, just for him moving? Or will it be a disadvantage to shoot this person and kill other ts? In other words is it worth the RISK of killing the other ts? That is all I have to say it is basic risk and gain.

-Oprah
 
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let me put this as easy as i can
its a game.... it happens. T's will die. Let me explain what Jail truly is
T's= Rebel
CT's= Dont let them rebel
Where in those 2 points do i see T's= hey lets go to the disco and have fun!!!...no thats not happening. T's are supposed to rebel, not play.
 
Frazar said:
let me put this as easy as i can
its a game.... it happens. T's will die. Let me explain what Jail truly is
T's= Rebel
CT's= Dont let them rebel
Where in those 2 points do i see T's= hey lets go to the disco and have fun!!!...no thats not happening. T's are supposed to rebel, not play.
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That wasn't about the post? I was not talking about having fun and rebelling thats a different thread.
 
I dunno it seems riskier for the ct's NOT to lay down fire in a crowd of T's where only one is rebelling.. just saying :D


But no seriously, I agree with what you're saying. If they don't have a gun and they aren't about to or haven't killed anyone yet just leave it be. When I play T, I hate getting killed for minor things like my mouse twitching because I'm talking in vent and my vent bind is on the mouse..

Things that really need peoples attention though is the Wardenz games.

Ex1:

Warden types a math question (ie: 2+2/0^0)
The correct answer would be 4 but someone isn't good at math and they decide the person who says 0 or undefined was right. And then ignore everyone trying to tell them they got the wrong person as they kill half the T's.

Ex2:

Wardenz says race across the room, spray the wall, race back and knife the wall you started on and that winner gets LR and there is no cheating.

Then someone cheats and doesnt spray the wall and wins and then the warden doesn't listen to the other T's saying he cheated and don't check the wall.




How to solve this and keep people from rage quitting?

1. If you ask a trivia question or math question, know the answer. If you aren't 100% sure type it into a google search bar OR ASK ANOTHER QUESTION.

2. If you have a race that involves spraying some wall, have someone checking the wall they are supposed to spray on while you watch to see who finishes.
 
Frazar, Oprah is trying to start a discussion. A discussion which you didn't answer or contribute to in your post. C'mon, you can put those words into a thought provoking commentary that we can all discuss.

As I see it, Oprah is trying to provide some insight into playing in Jail and I like this conversation starting up.
 
Leader Bean said:
Frazar, Oprah is trying to start a discussion. A discussion which you didn't answer or contribute to in your post. C'mon, you can put those words into a thought provoking commentary that we can all discuss.

As I see it, Oprah is trying to provide some insight into playing in Jail and I like this conversation starting up.
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no i know what he was trying to get at, but seemed to have failed to do so. Through his broken and incomplete sentences (which took me 3 reads to understand) he was trying to go in depth of whether or not killing a T is worth the risk. Here is the thing i was getting at which was related whole heartedly

Its a game.
Good day.
 
Frazar said:
no i know what he was trying to get at, but seemed to have failed to do so. Through his broken and incomplete sentences (which took me 3 reads to understand) he was trying to go in depth of whether or not killing a T is worth the risk.
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My righting ain't be not be the best?(Joke if you did not catch it)

I am sincerely sorry that my writing is not up to par, as this is a forum not a college essay.(Hey we think alike you say its just a game, and I say its just a web forum!:P). I am not trying to make a problem here, as I said in my other thread this was not meant to step on people's toes or offend anyone. It is simply like Leader Bean said a discussion starter. I also made this post so maybe people have more fun in jail. Because I know I get a little ticked off if I get killed for accidentally moving my mouse, or getting killed because someone moved next to me. Then after that having to watch others play for 5-10 minutes. If I said something wrong that made you feel uncomfortable or offended you please tell me I will attempt to fix it! I try as hard as possible not to offend anyone although sometimes I do, I really don't find it necessary to insult someone (or their righting or is that writing?) especially right to them though.



-Oprah
 
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We can all agree jail fails. All mods have their problems. If you don't want all these frustrations then don't play jail. Just some advice :).
 
3vlNomad said:
I dunno it seems riskier for the ct's NOT to lay down fire in a crowd of T's where only one is rebelling.. just saying :D


But no seriously, I agree with what you're saying. If they don't have a gun and they aren't about to or haven't killed anyone yet just leave it be. When I play T, I hate getting killed for minor things like my mouse twitching because I'm talking in vent and my vent bind is on the mouse..

Things that really need peoples attention though is the Wardenz games.

Ex1:

Warden types a math question (ie: 2+2/0^0)
The correct answer would be 4 but someone isn't good at math and they decide the person who says 0 or undefined was right. And then ignore everyone trying to tell them they got the wrong person as they kill half the T's.

Ex2:

Wardenz says race across the room, spray the wall, race back and knife the wall you started on and that winner gets LR and there is no cheating.

Then someone cheats and doesnt spray the wall and wins and then the warden doesn't listen to the other T's saying he cheated and don't check the wall.




How to solve this and keep people from rage quitting?

1. If you ask a trivia question or math question, know the answer. If you aren't 100% sure type it into a google search bar OR ASK ANOTHER QUESTION.

2. If you have a race that involves spraying some wall, have someone checking the wall they are supposed to spray on while you watch to see who finishes.
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I couldn't agree with you more, especially about the math trivia. I'm a math major, and more times than not I see somebody ask a somewhat tricky math question and then they have the wrong answer. one example is I saw a ct type in "8+8+8/8" and they said the answer was 3. So when I answered 17 (which is the correct answer) they said i was wrong. Well in order to get 3 you needed parentheses around the first part, like so (8+8+8)/3.
 
lol fiery discussion here. Its simple you dont fire into the crowd if the T is unarmed, just wait till the crowd moves and then attack him :P. If he has a weapon, then kill him where he stands and anyone who gets in his way (with limited casualties)
 
I just think the wardens need to be calmer, in real jail do you think that if somebody looks around they will shoot their face in? Maybe they need to pop their back? Sheesh. I think jail needs to be calmer and less UPTIGHT.
 
Yeah, People take it way to serious, like today I was cleaning my mac book pro, and accidentally hit the touch pad and move literally like maybe 20 degrees (remember you turn in circles). I was then killed, I mean like moving across the room is one thing moving a small amount is another and most likely an accident.
 
Oprah said:
Yeah, People take it way to serious, like today I was cleaning my mac book pro, and accidentally hit the touch pad and move literally like maybe 20 degrees (remember you turn in circles). I was then killed, I mean like moving across the room is one thing moving a small amount is another and most likely an accident.
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Thats a little uptight for warden/Ct's. It is ridiculous how some people respond to these silly harmful actions (opps i saw you twitch, shoots in the back of T's head)
 
I say u don't put them in a line and make them play trivia instead but having that in mind ppl end up freekilling on trivia too so my answer to that is FREEDAY =D
 
xXSwatPwnageXx said:
I say u don't put them in a line and make them play trivia instead but having that in mind ppl end up freekilling on trivia too so my answer to that is FREEDAY =D
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Freedays are fun, but not over and over again that ruins the who concept of jail.
in my opinion at times jail is not fun due to fail CTs who see a twitch in the corner of the screen and shoot who they THINK it was which isnt always the right person, i personally dont like being CT coz wheneva i try move the Ts around theres always a silly CT in there way an BOOM were all dead XD

ps. when im on the T team im usually the one to knife that silly CT :)
 
So the only thing fun in jail anymore are Mass Suicide Rounds. Seriously, try more of those and there will be lulz. We definatly need more originality in Jail.
 
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