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so epic........can't wait for game benchmarks and price/release date

looks promising though.......over 84 FPS on GF100 in far cry2 =O
 
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Wow.

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Definitely looks promising.

Now I feel like kicking myself for not waiting.
 
wat did u get a GTX 275??

These benchmarks are showing the GTX 380 with 512 CUDA cores or the lower end GTX 360 with less CUDA cores???

The one with 512 i believe right??

anyway, epic and i will wait for these babies to upgrade to

Tesselation is so cool tho, looks so nice
 
Yeah I got the 275, but 240 cores is extremely good for the time being.

And, I've ran a tessellation demo and it looks fantastic, so I couldn't imagine how great it looks on this bad boy.
 
looking at these early benchmarks.........ill be looking to get an Nvidia this time around, brand new architecture looks great and so does the performance

I also heard price will be relatively cheap or close to ATI pricing but with better performance
 
ya i dunno...i doubt the pricing will be too competitive. keep in mind they had time to develop the technology and refine it more than ATI, so of course the benchmarks are going to be higher for this new tech like tessellation.
either way the benchmarks do look promising, but for that far cry 2 at 84 fps i'd really like to know what the settings were on as well as what the minimum frames were too. i like how the vid cut off as soon as the question was asked


edit: let me pull this quote,
This fact is the 5850 is the best value in "real" gaming right now and this is where NVIDIA is going to have to compete. I am not sure NVIDIA is going to be able to do that for quite a while.
 
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we've been discussing this argument over at another forum quite a bit, and all I can say is that this card may not be all it's hyped up to be. Yes it should be powerful, but at what cost?

The 5870 will run much cooler and use far less power while producing numbers that are within a stone's throw of the GTX 380 (if that's what it's going to be called) It will be powerful. However, almost all of that power is devoted to tessellation, a technology that probably won't reach the gaming world for another couple of years. What does that mean? It means that once Tessellation reaches games, both AMD and Nvidia will have newer and more powerful cards on the market. So while Nvidia may get the crown for "futureproofing" their card, AMD's current offering is already winning on efficiency. If AMD were to release a card that uses roughly the same power as the GTX 380 is going to, it would more than likely thrash the living daylights out of it. In fact, rumors are that the GTX 380 will probably use the same amount of power as a ATI 5970, which is a Dual-GPU solution.

Nothing against Nvidia at all right now, but AMD has one hell of a product on the market at the moment. No, it won't be the king in terms of shader/geometry performance, but considering that its running on a PSU that I purchased over 3 years ago and only uses about 5-10% more power than my previous 9800 GTX+ did (the 5870 is over twice as powerful), that's progress.
 
well its going to be performing on par to a 5970 according to these early benchmarks.........that makes a single GPU competitive against a dual GPU
 
well its going to be performing on par to a 5970 according to these early benchmarks.........that makes a single GPU competitive against a dual GPU

The Unigen Heaven benchmark is not a good example of real gaming. It's a glorified tech demo that harps on Tessellation, which the GTX 380 is designed for.

In real applications, the 5970 will still be faster.
 
The Unigen Heaven benchmark is not a good example of real gaming. It's a glorified tech demo that harps on Tessellation, which the GTX 380 is designed for.

In real applications, the 5970 will still be faster.

thats not the only benchmark they showed.........far cry 2

5870=50 FPS

GTX 3xx = 84+ FPS
 
The Unigen Heaven benchmark is not a good example of real gaming. It's a glorified tech demo that harps on Tessellation, which the GTX 380 is designed for.

In real applications, the 5970 will still be faster.

The unigen benchmark was designed for optimum performance on ATI 5xxx cards. And the GF100 still beat the 5870. That's remarkable.

Now, I'm not saying Nvidia will win the "war,"as it were, but I am an enthusiast and I want the best performance out there regardless of price(would pay as much as $650 for a GF100), power consumption(<300W at most), and heat(I have a case with plenty of GPU airflow).

Not to mention I'm an avid folder, where ATI cards, frankly, suck completely. Should also be extremely quick at encoding video using CUDA enabled programs.
 
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thats not the only benchmark they showed.........far cry 2

5870=50 FPS

GTX 3xx = 84+ FPS

If you're talking about this video:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNbY-m28bUk[/ame]

It's a GTX 285 vs. GF100. It's NOT a HD 5870.

My HD 5870 gets 60-65 FPS on that benchmark at those settings. On top of this, Far Cry 2 is not an all encompassing example of how Fermi is going to perform vs. the 5870.

It's not as fast as you think it is. Yes, the new card is faster, but it's also 6 months late to the game.
 
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The 5xxx cards are designed for playing games and that is it. In future games, it will not perform as well do to the GF100 being optimized for Tesselation, Ray Tracing, etc.

The GF100 is designed for gaming, as well as GPGPU. It will have a huge advantage in future titles.

it depends on the end user's needs and preferences, as usual. There is no "winner."
 
I think the GF100 will cost a lot for the GPGPU abilities, but the 5XXX series will be a better value for gaming.
 
If you're talking about this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNbY-m28bUk

It's a GTX 285 vs. GF100. It's NOT a HD 5870.

My HD 5870 gets 60-65 FPS on that benchmark at those settings. On top of this, Far Cry 2 is not an all encompassing example of how Fermi is going to perform vs. the 5870.

It's not as fast as you think it is. Yes, the new card is faster, but it's also 6 months late to the game.

Try this test on for size.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/27892-nvidia-s-geforce-gf100-under-microscope-13.html

It's still Far Cry 2, but it gives us a good idea of 5870 vs GF100 in gaming.
 
Try this test on for size.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/27892-nvidia-s-geforce-gf100-under-microscope-13.html

It's still Far Cry 2, but it gives us a good idea of 5870 vs GF100 in gaming.

Yep. That test's right on the money. I can even reproduce it on my current setup.

I didn't say Fermi wasn't going to be powerful, but it's at the expense of heat and power usage (it's less efficient per watt). It's also going to be an expensive card. Probably around $550-$700 for the single chip unit. (back to the 8800 GTX days). I spent less than $400 for my 5870.

Now I could be completely wrong. I guess we'll just have to wait a couple months and see.
 
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