Verizon blocks 4chan

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Flippy the Squirrel said:
Although there are no First Amendment issues at play here (e.g. there is no government censorship going on), it is still, in my opinion, a slippery slope to say, "they deserve to be blocked because they have [xxx] on there." It reminds me of a Clarance Darrow quote that I love:When corporate entities start deciding what is appropriate for their customers to view/see, and they do so without being straightforward about it, I become concerned. I have no problem with an ISP saying, "we provide internet access, but only to sites that meet our criteria."
If a customer wants to surf under those constraints, then fine.
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As far as I'm concerned, blocking a site that has illegal content is perfectly legit. If everything that goes on on 4chan was legal I would be bashing Verizon endlessly and signing a contract with AT&T and Comcast, but lets face it, that is not even close to the case.
 
Cut Chem!st said:
Get rid of /b/, they move to another board in 4chan.
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Naw, they have rules outside of /b/. That are pretty well in forced.

According to them:
"Do not post the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry"), grotesque ("guro"), or loli/shota pornography."

Then again it's pointless to discuss it, because there is no way they are going to ax /b/.

FreakingHell said:
/s/ has kiddie porn a lot too.
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Never been to /s/, wouldn't know.
 
FreakingHell said:
As far as I'm concerned, blocking a site that has illegal content is perfectly legit. If everything that goes on on 4chan was legal I would be bashing Verizon endlessly and signing a contract with AT&T and Comcast, but lets face it, that is not even close to the case.
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I agree with you, but does Verizon block torrent sites? Do they block Yahoo, even though illegal content surely goes through their email system? Sure, illegal and amoral content shouldn't be on the internet, but that's for the legal system to decide, and not a corporation.

My two cents, anyways.
 
The thing is, its not 4chan (Meaning, Moot), who is posting the pornography, but the members itself. On any other forum, that would be dealt with by moderators and administrators, which 4chan has.
 
Could care less. I have verizon, but the fact that 4chan is being blocked doesn't phase me since I never gave a crap about 4chan anyway.
 
xSimon said:
The thing is, its not 4chan (Meaning, Moot), who is posting the pornography, but the members itself. On any other forum, that would be dealt with by moderators and administrators, which 4chan has.
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then if verizon is blocking 4chan, that only leaves one reason according to your logic.

and that reason being the 4chan moderators' failure to block those members who do break laws and rules (of both the website and the government).

Either way, 4chan is not a responsible site, no matter how you spin it.

Now, that being said, 4chan has some funny stuff on it, but the sheer volume of inappropriate, discusting, distasteful, and ignorant material is both sad and unethical.

-Blue
 
I hate 4chan with a passion. I'm glad its blocked from Verizon. Most vial and one of the most disgusting places ever.

Its also not cool to have your picture put up on there, and not knowing how it got there.

Full of weird people (no offense)

+1000000 Verizon
 
I think ISP's have no right to censor websites that simply allow free speech and the ability for anyone to express their views annonymously.
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ISP's have every right to restrict what data is sent over their network. Don't think its just Verizon picking on poor 4chan, If you do some research you'll find that most ISP's do some censoring.
 
Blue Stealth said:
then if verizon is blocking 4chan, that only leaves one reason according to your logic.

and that reason being the 4chan moderators' failure to block those members who do break laws and rules (of both the website and the government).

Either way, 4chan is not a responsible site, no matter how you spin it.

Now, that being said, 4chan has some funny stuff on it, but the sheer volume of inappropriate, discusting, distasteful, and ignorant material is both sad and unethical.

-Blue
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+Alot :P
 
Stickyfinger said:
Think of ISP's as a McDonald's. They just took the Quarter Pounder off the menu, and aren't making it anymore, do they have the right to do that?
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Did they take the Quarter Pounder with cheese off the menu too?:scared:

If so, damn them!!
 
Stickyfinger said:
Think of ISP's as a McDonald's. They just took the Quarter Pounder off the menu, and aren't making it anymore, do they have the right to do that?
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That's a pretty poor analogy. It almost makes it sound like ISP's have actual power...which if the Internet Freedom Preservation Act passes they won't.

Think of them more along the lines of American Airlines. They aren't sending flights into 4Chan anymore. If you want to go to the site then fly on Delta or someone else.

I think some people are missing something here. No one here is arguing on the side of 4Chan out of some love for the site. We simply do not like seeing an ISP regulating what is available to the consumer.

Oh, and Verizon unblocked 4Chan. According to Moot it was pretty much the same reason why AT&T blocked them.
 
Sexy Beast said:
That's a pretty poor analogy. It almost makes it sound like ISP's have actual power...which if the Internet Freedom Preservation Act passes they won't.

Think of them more along the lines of American Airlines. They aren't sending flights into 4Chan anymore. If you want to go to the site then fly on Delta or someone else.

I think some people are missing something here. No one here is arguing on the side of 4Chan out of some love for the site. We simply do not like seeing an ISP regulating what is available to the consumer.

Oh, and Verizon unblocked 4Chan. According to Moot it was pretty much the same reason why AT&T blocked them.
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Actually they do have power, you are using their product, and if they so choose, they can restrict it accordingly. They reserve the right to change their service as they feel.
 
Stickyfinger said:
Actually they do have power, you are using their product, and if they so choose, they can restrict it accordingly. They reserve the right to change their service as they feel.
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You get into a cab, tell the driver you want to go to the airport. Instead he drives you to a supermarket.

See? Just because they can restrict it does not make it good for everyone.
 
Beta said:
You get into a cab, tell the driver you want to go to the airport. Instead he drives you to a supermarket.

See? Just because they can restrict it does not make it good for everyone.
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Never said it was "good", just said they do have the power to do it.
 
This thread should of been locked a A LONG time ago.

I thought edgegamers wasn't about debating especially when verizon paid for 2 boxes of ours for 6 months...... Way to show appreciation.

-Locked.
 
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