[Non-Gaming Related] Question to people who graduated colledge and have/had a job

[Korea_xD]

Im asking this question since eGO is like my family
So im currently in high school as a freshmen and I saw a video in school where it showed you the facts, and in one of the facts it said what you learn in freshmen year and by the year you graduate high school it will most likely will be outdated and same thing goes with colledge, then what would be the point of learning, only thing that wont really change will be Math and English.
It wont really help once you try to get job, since it wont be helpful with the facts that you know.
And specially job that im try to get and learn is coding(programming) which changes/develops almost every month.
So here is my question to people who have experinces with careers, do you think what I said is true? Or its not so true, and if it is true, what would be really point of learning?
Im not asking this question to quit high school or something so dont worry i just want thinks to be cleared thanks.

-Korea_xD

 

[KrzyMoke]

Well I am here to tell you that your education and what YOU put into it is important. Growing up without a silver spoon, my education gave me the tools to compete and provide me the job I really love and the skills to go farther. Do your research first. Figure what you would like to do, find the best school, then GET AWAY FROM FAMILY! Go to where the best school is and Excel. Your family will be proud that your standing up for yourself and making the sacrifices needed to give you a bright "AND" fun future. I'm an electronics technician and is working into a GS 12 job that pays 110K a year. It will be a fun job and I get paid well to have FUN every day. Go Figure. As for Coding, I ran a team of 5 that created all my code the for projects we did and they were continually learning and sharing with other coders. That keeps you on top. You never stop learning. Always strive to keep an arsenal of tools in your belt. That way you will be cutting edge and never have to worry about being cut from the team

 

[Fear Feathers]

Well I am here to tell you that your education and what YOU put into it is important. Growing up without a silver spoon, my education gave me the tools to compete and provide me the job I really love and the skills to go farther. Do your research first. Figure what you would like to do, find the best school, then GET AWAY FROM FAMILY! Go to where the best school is and Excel. Your family will be proud that your standing up for yourself and making the sacrifices needed to give you a bright "AND" fun future. I'm an electronics technician and is working into a GS 12 job that pays 110K a year. It will be a fun job and I get paid well to have FUN every day. Go Figure. As for Coding, I ran a team of 5 that created all my code the for projects we did and they were continually learning and sharing with other coders. That keeps you on top. You never stop learning. Always strive to keep an arsenal of tools in your belt. That way you will be cutting edge and never have to worry about being cut from the team

sounds like a pretty awesome life :/

 

[Byakuya]

Education is extremely important if you want to be a competetive member of the work force. If I could give you some advise from personal experience, its to have a goal apon entering college, or your trade school. Trust me when I say you dont wana be a 3rd year sophmore like me

 

[iEye Captain]

It might be outdated by then, but if you don't learn it well now, you won't get the chance in the future to learn the newer versions.

 

[Snipeye]

For credentials: I did four and a half years of college, graduating with two majors and two minors.

With your question about what you learn at the beginning of high school and when you graduate, the lessons and information taught to you would be outdated? It depends on the coursework, and as you noted, Match, English remain consistent throughout time (just new formulas or new spelling rules, etc.). Additionally, history remains history, unless someone makes Back to the Future a reality.

I don't know the video, and would like to see it, but what it taught you is wrong. Everything you learn your freshmen year will be applicable and relevant throughout your life. You may not realize it or consciously think of using it, but ponder this: You're at a new high school, with people you've known for a few years to never knowing at all. You learn how to socialize with your classmates, form friendships, relationships, and yes, even animosity. Did you just realize the first day of high school actually taught you a life-long valuable lesson that you will actually repeat at least once in your life? Don't believe me? Think about going to college; you're new, don't know other people. You have to figure out how to meet new people, form friendships, relationships, etc. Don't plan on going to college? Well, when you start a new job, you'll be working with other employees you don't know that well or never met before. Same thing. I know that I'm bending the mindset of what is taught, but it still counts as a lesson (though without a teacher directly supervising you).

Does what you learn in the beginning stay relevant throughout your high school or college career? Yes. They're the basics for a reason: They form the framework for everything that you will need to know to learn other skills and knowledge. Engineering 101 is the most basic engineering course, and one of the hardest, at my college because it forms the basis for all engineering across all the engineering professions: Nuclear, Mechanical, Chemical, etc. The best way to understand, I think, is to imagine a pyramid. The more general knowledge is the lowest, but largest base. And as you move up the pyramid, you're learning more based off of what you learned from the lower base. Each time you move up, the knowledge that forms that base is not as large as the base below, because it's more specialized towards certain lessons. For example, Math is the base for a variety of professions; mathematicians, engineers, accountants, financiers, entrepreneurs, scientists, etc. They all share that same base, but as each individual learns more for their profession or degree, the stuff they learn becomes more specialized only for them, but they still need to remember the basic knowledge they were taught to succeed at performing at the highest level.

Sorry for sounding very preachy (or like a teacher), but I hope that helps.

 

[GHOST_NAPPA]

College is worth it if you have the discipline. But there are a few things high school teachers won't tell you about college.

Proffessors do care if you don't show up to class. Often times they will deduct your grade if you miss a lot.

If you are in college on scholarship, and you skip class a lot or are failing, the givers of that scholarship can sue for their money back. Theyaren't going to pay for you to skip class.

Once you finish a test in class, you can leave class for the day lol.

 

[Korea_xD]

For credentials: I did four and a half years of college, graduating with two majors and two minors.

With your question about what you learn at the beginning of high school and when you graduate, the lessons and information taught to you would be outdated? It depends on the coursework, and as you noted, Match, English remain consistent throughout time (just new formulas or new spelling rules, etc.). Additionally, history remains history, unless someone makes Back to the Future a reality.

I don't know the video, and would like to see it, but what it taught you is wrong. Everything you learn your freshmen year will be applicable and relevant throughout your life. You may not realize it or consciously think of using it, but ponder this: You're at a new high school, with people you've known for a few years to never knowing at all. You learn how to socialize with your classmates, form friendships, relationships, and yes, even animosity. Did you just realize the first day of high school actually taught you a life-long valuable lesson that you will actually repeat at least once in your life? Don't believe me? Think about going to college; you're new, don't know other people. You have to figure out how to meet new people, form friendships, relationships, etc. Don't plan on going to college? Well, when you start a new job, you'll be working with other employees you don't know that well or never met before. Same thing. I know that I'm bending the mindset of what is taught, but it still counts as a lesson (though without a teacher directly supervising you).

Does what you learn in the beginning stay relevant throughout your high school or college career? Yes. They're the basics for a reason: They form the framework for everything that you will need to know to learn other skills and knowledge. Engineering 101 is the most basic engineering course, and one of the hardest, at my college because it forms the basis for all engineering across all the engineering professions: Nuclear, Mechanical, Chemical, etc. The best way to understand, I think, is to imagine a pyramid. The more general knowledge is the lowest, but largest base. And as you move up the pyramid, you're learning more based off of what you learned from the lower base. Each time you move up, the knowledge that forms that base is not as large as the base below, because it's more specialized towards certain lessons. For example, Math is the base for a variety of professions; mathematicians, engineers, accountants, financiers, entrepreneurs, scientists, etc. They all share that same base, but as each individual learns more for their profession or degree, the stuff they learn becomes more specialized only for them, but they still need to remember the basic knowledge they were taught to succeed at performing at the highest level.

Sorry for sounding very preachy (or like a teacher), but I hope that helps.

Like i said im not asking this question to skip school or something, i never skipped any class in my life and i never intend to do so xD
Anyway thank you for really great answer and i wanted this kind of answer and yeah when i watched that video i was thinking thats not really true but i wanted to make clear, anyway thanks again

 

[CrazyKiller]

Im asking this question since eGO is like my family
So im currently in high school as a freshmen and I saw a video in school where it showed you the facts, and in one of the facts it said what you learn in freshmen year and by the year you graduate high school it will most likely will be outdated and same thing goes with colledge, then what would be the point of learning, only thing that wont really change will be Math and English.
It wont really help once you try to get job, since it wont be helpful with the facts that you know.
And specially job that im try to get and learn is coding(programming) which changes/develops almost every month.
So here is my question to people who have experinces with careers, do you think what I said is true? Or its not so true, and if it is true, what would be really point of learning?
Im not asking this question to quit high school or something so dont worry i just want thinks to be cleared thanks.

-Korea_xD

I'll start off by saying that I have not yet attended college since graduating high school in 2005 so I cannot comment on college or college experiences.

However, I will talk to you about my experiences in a related field (IT).

First of all, the one most important thing you must understand about a technology or software development related field is that you will never stop learning. It doesn't matter what education you have, how many certificates you've trained or tested for, or what you know - it will never be enough and it will constantly evolve. Never think that you know everything because you do not.

Let me fill you in a bit on what I used to do before I joined the Army and then get on to what I want to say about your future career choice from my perspective and experiences.

After I graduated high school in 2005 I moved from New Jersey to Virginia to work for a webhosting and enterprise management company. This company, who I will keep nameless (I am not ashamed or embarassed, but I prefer to be neutral about them if I am talking about them), specialized in virtual server hosting, along with colocation, and dedicated server hosting. When I was hired I knew next to nothing about servers, much less about Linux, programming, scripting, etc. The only experience/background I had was as technical support for their now defunct gameserver provider division running on Windows Server 2003.

In the two years that I was with them I never once attended any schools, certifications, or classes regarding the technologies that we used or anything I did. Instead, all of what I did I learned as I went from my manager, the CTO, and the CEO (it was a small company at the time where we were all working side by side). I was a network operations engineer and my main task was to maintain, deploy, repair, test, and monitor our physical and logical network. Everything from the racks we used, to the servers, switches, and routers I was responsible for. I had to work with various operating systems - Windows Server 2003, CentOS 4.x/5.x, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, FreeBSD, Ubuntu, and even OSX Server. I was mostly a hardware guy, so all I was worried about was basic server administration to help support our customers.

I did however, work side by side with our system engineers (developers, software gurus, VPS support team). They were really smart and creative people that knew how to tackle some of the toughest software and server administration problems that I have seen in my 2 and half years working there. Since my job required me to work hand-in-hand with them, I saw some things and picked up a few tips and tricks along the way. It was a great job and I learned a lot.

Even without college now, just based on my experience and once I finish my MCSE/MCSA/MCITP certifications I will not need a college education or degree to land some really nice jobs once I am out of the Army.

Let me tell you, the world of IT, programming, and software development though, isn't the same from day to day. New technologies are created and new languages are developed. Codesets and features are changed daily. You must be able to adapt and learn on the fly, and be able to troubleshoot as you go. My experience with things like PHP and Perl has shown me that even in the smallest update to the standards and features will play an impact on what you can and can't do, or how you accomplish a task. Actual software development and programming with languages such as C++ and Java are a bit more standardised, but you must always be prepared for changes.

I will offer one thing of advice to you right now - learn what you can by yourself! Pick up books and start reading. Practice what you have learned, and continue to develop and polish your skills. This is the best way to teach yourself! If you can show profieciency at a higher level of your peers then you will be looked at.

 

[Neo Omega]

its make it simple. education is what you get out of it.

high school prepares you for college.

college gives you a broad base of knowledge (depending on the degree you get).

most of it is, is to put you under a lot of stress, and hopefully, you'll learn something out of it (i mean, come on, who expects you to remember everything?)

point of this ramble? learn, continue to learn, and learning on your own. pick something and read about it, experience it, and get good at it.