I will be back soon! help me build a rig!

[Netsky]

Hi guys,

after an absence off a few months i started working recently which enabeled me to gather enough money to buy/compose myself a new gaming rig which i needed.
I am belgian (european) and i am currently asking for advice on 2 dutchspeaking tech forum's.
But i would also like to get advise from my fellow gamers .

I will probably buy every parts off the following dutch site:

HELP ME BUILD A RIG!

You can see a proposed gaming set up if you check the link.
What i need is a gaming rig whit a budget from 1200-1300 euro which includes a screen but excludes all software and exclused an os-system.
I basically only need the tower and a screen.
Purpose is a gaming rig which enables me to play the most recent games on pritty good settings and a gamingrig which makes me able to upgrade it later on.

To everyone who wants to help me, the more help i get the sooner i am back.
I got my money ready just need some help to be sure that i spend it good .


Greetings Hardstyle4life
C you all soon!

 

[I'm your huckleberry]

Build looks good. You could probably change a couple things around, but they would not be huge changes. For example, you could do this psu:

http://azerty.nl/8-1073-353613/xfx-core-edition-pro650w-voe.html

Which is a better unit, but you lose the modularity (though that is not a huge problem since most cables are used anyways, and big cases leave plenty of space to hide the unused ones. Slightly less power, though 650w should be plenty even if you plan to go crossfire in the future.

RAM is cheap, so you could upgrade to a nicer set of 1600 ram for $8 with some bling bling heat spreaders such as this:

http://azerty.nl/8-750-396743/corsair-vengeance-geheugen-.html

Performance probably will not be a huge difference, so for the price difference, it probably isn't worth it.

Really the only thing I would definitely recommend is a decent cpu cooler such as

http://azerty.nl/0-976-455750/cooler-master-hyper-212-evo-.html

which will be good for prolonging the life of the cpu and allowing you to achieve some nice overclocks (since that is what the 2500k allows for)

 

[Netsky]

what do you advise an intel core 2500k or a 2550k?

Also i am doubting to get a fulltowermodel instead off a mid whit the purpose off expanding in the future, so i am unsure if my current selected model will be suficient or not.

 

[pillar]

Hey Hardstyle, definitely stay with the 2500k. The 2 biggest differences between the 2500k & the 2550k is that the 2550k doesnt comes w/ a warranty or a build in graphics chip. Its definitely best to go with the 2500k, esp if something goes wrong with it (which I highly doubt it will).

Please forgive me as I dont understand much of the stats of your dutch site. Im sure that if you were to look at 1 of our sponsored sites (Newegg.com), you would prob get confused as well. hehe

 

[a pet rock]

With what huck said about the PSU, you could go less than 650W and still have plenty for crossfire 7850s+2500k. ~500W will be good for crossfire 7850s, and 400W will be good for a single 7850.

 

[I'm your huckleberry]

what do you advise an intel core 2500k or a 2550k?

Also i am doubting to get a fulltowermodel instead off a mid whit the purpose off expanding in the future, so i am unsure if my current selected model will be suficient or not.

Your current one is a fairly nice model. It should be fine to upgrade with in the future. Obviously a full tower will be bigger and therefore a little easier to work in, but I do not see a big problem working in a mid case. You could go with the HAF X, but you are talking about a pretty big price increase.

And yes, stick with the 2500k.

And yeah, a 550W might do just fine. There is also a version of the XFX model at 550W that is a decent savings:

http://azerty.nl/8-1073-398419/xfx-core-edition-pro550w-voe.html

However, a problem you get with lower wattage psus is only 2 pci-e connectors. With the 7850s though, it is not a problem since they only use one each.

 

[Erebos]

http://ecomm.euro.dell.com/dellstor...=CFG&oid=b1180a6a-a895-4e5f-9db7-1888f5fa6ceb
€ 1.347,10
47,10 above your price of 1300
I couldn't understand what it was asking lol but the parts and prices I understood xD You can upgrade/ downgrade from that link it should be one of the options that I can;t understand lol

 

[Netsky]

- @ erebos your link doesn't work

- general concerns:
A) doesnt give a memory whit heatsinks give problems whit my cooling (heard that on a dutchspeaking gaming forum) also is 1600 mhz going to give me better performance then 1333mhz for gaming?

B)
i heard good reviews about this cpu cooler: http://azerty.nl/8-976-486101/thermalright-true-spirit-120-.html what do you guys advise compared to this model: http://azerty.nl/0-976-455750/cooler-master-hyper-212-evo-.html

 

[I'm your huckleberry]

Yes, they can interfere with the cpu cooler. You would have to look at compatibility on the cpu coolers actual webpage/manual. Here is a review to read:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3/1

In the end, for gaming at 1080p and above, it will not make much difference. While 1600 can make a difference in other applications, it probably is not worth the cost of the upgrade (though I will leave that to you to decide).

As for the cpu cooler, I would stick with the cheaper hyper 212:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermalright-True-Spirit-120-CPU-Cooler-Review/1420/6

Not sure how much you can trust the numbers though given it has an nh-d14 getting beat by the 212. The true does have a slightly lower noise level though.

 

[Erebos]

- @ erebos your link doesn't work

whyyyyy lol :blink:
One of these 2 links is where I started
http://www.dell.com/be/bedrijven/p/...&baynote_irrank=2&~ck=dellSearch&isredir=true
http://www.dell.com/be/p/alienware-...=4&~ck=dellSearch&isredir=truecat=all&x=8&y=6

 

[Erebos]

Double post ftw -_-

 

[Netsky]

alright ordering this:
http://azerty.nl/winkelmandje/winkelmandje/?legen=1&product%5B363903%5D=1&product%5B458155%5D=1&product%5B230302%5D=2&product%5B232977%5D=1&product%5B403634%5D=1&product%5B451284%5D=1&product%5B405088%5D=1&product%5B435818%5D=1&product%5B397291%5D=1&product%5B487560%5D=1&product%5B455750%5D=1

Looks good enough as a starting build for a while


Thanks guys for your input!

 

[pillar]

Hey Hardstyle, heres something u badly overlooked (mind u i had 2 understand the euro currency conversion method really quickly here): http://azerty.nl/8-749-280241/corsair-xms3-geheugen-8-gb.html

Overall, you shouldve gotten like a high 6000 series card & saved a lil $$ in order 2 double up on the memory. The heat spreading technology built into the memory helps massively, especially when gaming. Memory is definitely 1 area you dont wanna go cheap on (technology-wise), esp since its vital to running a computer, no matter if its a desktop or a laptop/netbook.

 

[Netsky]

Hey Hardstyle, heres something u badly overlooked (mind u i had 2 understand the euro currency conversion method really quickly here): http://azerty.nl/8-749-280241/corsair-xms3-geheugen-8-gb.html

Overall, you shouldve gotten like a high 6000 series card & saved a lil $$ in order 2 double up on the memory. The heat spreading technology built into the memory helps massively, especially when gaming. Memory is definitely 1 area you dont wanna go cheap on (technology-wise), esp since its vital to running a computer, no matter if its a desktop or a laptop/netbook.

i do have orderd 8gb of memory 2 kingstons you can see in my link. for around the same price.
https://azerty.nl/persoonlijk/mijn_details/?ID=470365&MIJN_ACTIE=order_detail

 

[I'm your huckleberry]

While the ram would have been better (not sure how I missed that set, though I blame it on being a foreign site), the 7850 is a good choice given it performs on par with a 6950, is newer tech, uses less power, better overclockability, runs cooler, and is cheaper than any of hte 6950s that are listed. So there I will have to disagree.

 

[Netsky]

While the ram would have been better (not sure how I missed that set, though I blame it on being a foreign site), the 7850 is a good choice given it performs on par with a 6950, is newer tech, uses less power, better overclockability, runs cooler, and is cheaper than any of hte 6950s that are listed. So there I will have to disagree.

i as thinking off overclocking my saphire 7850k from as soon at it arrives to at least 4ghz. And then for crossfire in a few months what do you guys advise?

Is it stil going to be worth it going crossfire in a few months (lets say july) compared to ivy bridge coming out this month.
And if yes what crossfire proposition do you guys give?

i was thinking off a 7870k from saphire.
7850 and 7870 is compatible and by july the 7870k prices will have droped probably to the price range off a 7850k you can buy currently i bet.
So then price/quality would i be good whit a 7870k to go crossfire.
Or is it to soon to estimate.

 

[I'm your huckleberry]

I assume you are talking about overclocking your 2500k to 4Ghz. That should be easy. Here is a preview of ivy bridge vs a 2600k:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5626/ivy-bridge-preview-core-i7-3770k

Shows that you are getting 5-15% performance increase over sandy bridge. However, I would not upgrade to it so soon if you already purchased your cpu.

Upgrading to crossfire would be a better use of the money. As for mixed crossfire, the better card's performance is dropped to that of the lower card so you end up getting basically 7850+7850 crossfire performance. Here is an older review of mixed crossfire for a 5850+5870

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1107/1/

Not sure if it has changed since then. I know it still will not be as good as 7870 crossfire (obviously), but whether it would be better than 2 7850s I do not know. I think 2 7850s would be a better option as prices on those will be dropping as well.

 

[Netsky]

I assume you are talking about overclocking your 2500k to 4Ghz. That should be easy. Here is a preview of ivy bridge vs a 2600k:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5626/ivy-bridge-preview-core-i7-3770k

Shows that you are getting 5-15% performance increase over sandy bridge. However, I would not upgrade to it so soon if you already purchased your cpu.

Upgrading to crossfire would be a better use of the money. As for mixed crossfire, the better card's performance is dropped to that of the lower card so you end up getting basically 7850+7850 crossfire performance. Here is an older review of mixed crossfire for a 5850+5870

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1107/1/

Not sure if it has changed since then. I know it still will not be as good as 7870 crossfire (obviously), but whether it would be better than 2 7850s I do not know. I think 2 7850s would be a better option as prices on those will be dropping as well.

- yeah overclocking my processor (my mistake) i heard people getting it to 4,5 ghz but i am not gonne push it that far and track my heat.
- I'll propably overclock my video card to, but not that much.
- about the crossfire aspect i'll wait till prices have dropped more cause 1 7850 is currently sufficient to run demanding games like battlefield 3 for instance on decent settings.
- Concerning ivy bridge i am unsure if the motherboard i bought will be compatible whit it, also i bet prices at launch for ivy bridge processors will be overpriced price/quality compared to current models. Or am i mistaken?
Motherboard

 

[I'm your huckleberry]

All you have said sounds good and correct. Ivy bridge is basically supposed to come out at the same price point as sandy bridge, but that may not be quite accurate. According to gigabytes site, it has support for next gen 22nm cpus:

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3853#ov

I like your approach to overclocking. No reason to go all out given the already amazing performance. I find it more of a tool for getting longer usability out of the product down the road when it becomes more of a bottleneck.

 

[Netsky]

All you have said sounds good and correct. Ivy bridge is basically supposed to come out at the same price point as sandy bridge, but that may not be quite accurate. According to gigabytes site, it has support for next gen 22nm cpus:

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3853#ov

I like your approach to overclocking. No reason to go all out given the already amazing performance. I find it more of a tool for getting longer usability out of the product down the road when it becomes more of a bottleneck.

That really is satisfing news, means this system will be off use for a pritty good time .