Counter-Strike Global Offensive Jail Server Poor positioning is NOT baiting

[Rogue Sniper]

Imma summarize what I talked to Nick about, cause really theres 3 definitions of baiting.

Definition A)
A CT positioning themselves close to the T(s) in attempt to get them to rush so they can kill the Ts

Definition B)
Purposely not using CT areas even after being told/suggested or guided to use them, but not directly trying to tempt the Ts into killing/attacking them

Definition C)
Unknowingly not using CT areas because instead of playing the map as T for a few rounds to learn it, they instantly jump on CT and have no clue where to position themselves.



Def A) is them purposely breaking the rules
Def B) is them either purposely breaking the rules or them not paying attention to admin/team chat
Def C) is them not knowing the map and not paying attention.

What the difference between all three is the intention of the player which is not easily known to other players and admins.

Players should suggest to their teammates to stay in CT areas or far enough away that they pose no threat to being injured or killed (hint, remind them their weapons shoot projectiles and those go far). If a player ignores suggestions or guidance then admins can/will step in and take further action.

Also you should never be on the same floor as the Ts if you warden, STOP HAVING THEM FOLLOW YOU, just tell them where to go, everyone has a minimap with labels on like all but 2 maps. If its not labeled tell them to go to your bullets/paintballs(if they come back). Theres no reason not to be in CT areas when they are available to you.

 

[Luna]

Rogue and I talked which he posted a good summary of. The main takeaways are:

1

-snip- the intention of the player which is not easily known to other players and admins.

2

Players should suggest to their teammates to stay in CT areas or far enough away that they pose no threat to being injured or killed (hint, remind them their weapons shoot projectiles and those go far).

3

Also you should never be on the same floor as the Ts if you warden -snip- There's no reason not to be in CT areas when they are available to you.

Also, as said before, this thread was never meant to define or redefine baiting as it's a very broad, blanket concept which covers a lot of different scenarios.

 

[SigmaMX]

Also, as said before, this thread was never meant to define or redefine baiting as it's a very broad, blanket concept which covers a lot of different scenarios.

Also (with due respect and for people who are not very familiar with this initiative) redefining rules and concepts is not part of the Boss' functions.

I will admit though that this conversation gave me new optics about baiting and will consider them when taking action.

 

[All Tees]

So pretty much for baiting only you just (unnoficially) warn/w/k/b unless they are

Definition A)
A CT positioning themselves close to the T(s) in attempt to get them to rush so they can kill the Ts

?

 

[Luna]

So pretty much for baiting only you just (unnoficially) warn/w/k/b unless they are ?

I don't understand your question or why you quoted that part of the post

 

[All Tees]

I don't understand your question or why you quoted that part of the post

My question was, If they are just having poor positioning should you steam message them tips, and if they continue to have poor positioning even after you have helped them to stay away from the Ts use w/k/b. Unless they are purposefully baiting to kill off the Ts. I quoted that part because i thought Rogue said it better than i would.

 

[RedDragonKnight]

My question was, If they are just having poor positioning should you steam message them tips, and if they continue to have poor positioning even after you have helped them to stay away from the Ts use w/k/b. Unless they are purposefully baiting to kill off the Ts. I quoted that part because i thought Rogue said it better than i would.

If they're intentionally doing it to bait out rebellion, w/r/k/b. If it was an accident and they didn't mean it, consider leniency.