3 Additions to JB FAQ

[Matrix]

So the JB FAQ is pretty helpful as a reference and I'm no AT person but these things are common misconceptions that many CTs do on JB
Again I'm not an AT member so if the rules are wrong my bad, if the rules have changed since the EGO/PG merger maybe these rules don't count anymore


1. Cts are camping vent cell when they grind up against it
Duny said on the pG fourms and its still a pretty big problem on jb_dojo

"If vents are open and the cell doors are still closed but the Guard is waiting until the cell doors open with their face on the cell door then it would be another definition of camping a vent cell"

https://www.prestige-gaming.org/threads/70898/

2. There is no default knifing distance for freedays and warden has to call it out

Tora (Fate) pointed out in the rules it doesnt state a default knifing distance for freedays or anyday really, so wardens with no mic call a freeday and cts spray down anyone near them because they assume theres a "default knifing distance of 3" but the rule just stated to tell Ts to back off and if they don't after a reasonable amount of time you can kill them

3. There is no 3 second rule

Just a big one and its dying down but many CTs and Ts complain that a gaurd didn't give them "3 seconds" to complete the action when it really says a reasonable amount of time. Most admins know this rule but the chat spam and sometimes the steam chat spam happens

 

[Orange]

3. There is no 3 second rule

Did not know that.

 

[Dackep]

Everything here is based on opinions. Except the third one. The third one makes no sense.

1. As a guard, it is my purpose to pursue rebellers, camping vents would be if we were watching while its not open. Its only pursuing the suspected secret that might have rebellers in it.

2. If the T is obviously trying to kill you, you can try to kill him back. Its one knifing distance. It basically shows you that he has intention to kill you. Simple enough?

3. The 3 seconds rule is one of those rules that can't really be monitored, but is expected to be respected and followed. Although i've been killed by such cts not realizing what afk freeze means or not counting to 3 seconds properly, i mostly wont report it as its kind of annoying to follow as a guard.
Removing it will induce more freekills.

The rules have NOT changed since we merged with eGO. If we did, most players would stop playing, and most servers would die. We are breathing new life into this community because abdul had other things to do in real life.

Also, if the rules did change, i'm pretty sure we wouldn't follow them.

 

[EpicFlamingos]

Everything here is based on opinions. Except the third one. The third one makes no sense.

1. As a guard, it is my purpose to pursue rebellers, camping vents would be if we were watching while its not open. Its only pursuing the suspected secret that might have rebellers in it.

2. If the T is obviously trying to kill you, you can try to kill him back. Its one knifing distance. It basically shows you that he has intention to kill you. Simple enough?

3. The 3 seconds rule is one of those rules that can't really be monitored, but is expected to be respected and followed. Although i've been killed by such cts not realizing what afk freeze means or not counting to 3 seconds properly, i mostly wont report it as its kind of annoying to follow as a guard.
Removing it will induce more freekills.

The rules have NOT changed since we merged with eGO. If we did, most players would stop playing, and most servers would die. We are breathing new life into this community because abdul had other things to do in real life.

Also, if the rules did change, i'm pretty sure we wouldn't follow them.

Wow there's some blatantly wrong stuff.

For 2), that's absolutely not true whatsoever, you can't just kill someone because it looks like they're going to kill you, or because they're close to you. You need to tell them to back away first and if they don't, then you can kill them. There's no "one knifing distance" or anything like that. There wasn't in pG, and as far as I know that hasn't changed in eGO either.

For point 3), I strongly disagree (and by strongly disagree I mean that it's in the rules), there are some commands where you need more or less time to pursue it, 3 seconds is just a time that was silently agreed on by everyone as being the most fair amount of time, but if you see a T deliberately going out of their way to not pursue the command then you can kill them if they aren't even attempting to pursue.
I honestly don't even see why we need 3 seconds to AFK freeze, just take your hands off your keyboard and mouse lol

1) is so ****ing iffy, when it got asked to me in pG, I honestly had no clue, and I'm still iffy on it. I personally don't see an issue with it, people have been doing it since I first started playing, and I don't think it should be changed now, but again, no idea.

Also, the rules have had some pretty big updates since I first started playing, and we're still consistently in the top 10 CSGO servers on gametracker, so saying that people will stop playing is completely false.

 

[Corrupted]

I mean on minecraft if you go up up to vent cell to check if it's open than its baiting. Carter asked mayhem if its baiting and he did agree, he said your not allowed to push your face onto the cells just to check if its open, im sure the same thing goes with dojo. Camping the vent cell on dojo is a really big problem. Instead of camping vents, what I do is I go above the vent cell, let people go in and than pursue the vent, I know that they won't go that far anyways, im pursuing them without even camping it, I would recomend doing that, its more fair for the both sides, the t's have a chance to rebel, but also have a chance to die. Better than camping it because than everyone will literly hate you.

 

[Ayto]

Deadass, the rules are fine I?m high key tired of these kind of posts.

I just wish people would stop complaining and play the game. If you plan on rebelling, are currently a rebeller, etc. you have no room to complain about Guards camping vent cells, because you are the reason they do it. It?s your fault if you bumrush the vents on Dojo and die because you know half the guards are watching it.

If you die when you are rebelling or trying to rebel don?t be a sore loser about it. If you are going to complain and whine every time you die and say someone broke a rule blah blah, then do us all a favor and don?t rebel.

Don?t be a dick and give the T?s time to pursue the order, nobody likes a cancer guard.

Just please play the game, and try to be more creative with your rebelling.

 

[Matrix]

Deadass, the rules are fine I’m high key tired of these kind of posts.

I just wish people would stop complaining and play the game. If you plan on rebelling, are currently a rebeller, etc. you have no room to complain about Guards camping vent cells, because you are the reason they do it. It’s your fault if you bumrush the vents on Dojo and die because you know half the guards are watching it.

If you die when you are rebelling or trying to rebel don’t be a sore loser about it. If you are going to complain and whine every time you die and say someone broke a rule blah blah, then do us all a favor and don’t rebel.

Don’t be a dick and give the T’s time to pursue the order, nobody likes a cancer guard.

Just please play the game, and try to be more creative with your rebelling.

Where am I suggesting a new rule? I'm literally giving a reference for players to use and my hope it gets added to the FAQ if it's correct

 

[Matrix]

I mean on minecraft if you go up up to vent cell to check if it's open than its baiting. Carter asked mayhem if its baiting and he did agree, he said your not allowed to push your face onto the cells just to check if its open, im sure the same thing goes with dojo. Camping the vent cell on dojo is a really big problem. Instead of camping vents, what I do is I go above the vent cell, let people go in and than pursue the vent, I know that they won't go that far anyways, im pursuing them without even camping it, I would recomend doing that, its more fair for the both sides, the t's have a chance to rebel, but also have a chance to die. Better than camping it because than everyone will literly hate you.

What I do is I go above the vent cell, let people go in and than pursue the vent, I know that they won't go that far anyways, im pursuing them without even camping it,

Camping doesn't mean killing necessarily, if you stay on to and let them go in you will eventually kill them as soon as there a few steps in. It's just as bad as having an awp scooped in, just a bit more delayed

 

[Matrix]

Everything here is based on opinions. Except the third one. The third one makes no sense.

1. As a guard, it is my purpose to pursue rebellers, camping vents would be if we were watching while its not open. Its only pursuing the suspected secret that might have rebellers in it.

2. If the T is obviously trying to kill you, you can try to kill him back. Its one knifing distance. It basically shows you that he has intention to kill you. Simple enough?

3. The 3 seconds rule is one of those rules that can't really be monitored, but is expected to be respected and followed. Although i've been killed by such cts not realizing what afk freeze means or not counting to 3 seconds properly, i mostly wont report it as its kind of annoying to follow as a guard.
Removing it will induce more freekills.

The rules have NOT changed since we merged with eGO. If we did, most players would stop playing, and most servers would die. We are breathing new life into this community because abdul had other things to do in real life.

Also, if the rules did change, i'm pretty sure we wouldn't follow them.

And this is why you deserve a CT ban if you just admitted to killing ts for pretty much looking at you in a funny way

 

[Corrupted]

What I do is I go above the vent cell, let people go in and than pursue the vent, I know that they won't go that far anyways, im pursuing them without even camping it,

Camping doesn't mean killing necessarily, if you stay on to and let them go in you will eventually kill them as soon as there a few steps in. It's just as bad as having an awp scooped in, just a bit more delayed

Yes but they still have a chance to rebel, if a T is standing there with a usp, he can easly kill the ct's, or if armory is open. It's a diffrence

 

[Corrupted]

So the JB FAQ is pretty helpful as a reference and I'm no AT person but these things are common misconceptions that many CTs do on JB
Again I'm not an AT member so if the rules are wrong my bad, if the rules have changed since the EGO/PG merger maybe these rules don't count anymore


1. Cts are camping vent cell when they grind up against it
Duny said on the pG fourms and its still a pretty big problem on jb_dojo

"If vents are open and the cell doors are still closed but the Guard is waiting until the cell doors open with their face on the cell door then it would be another definition of camping a vent cell"

https://www.prestige-gaming.org/threads/70898/

2. There is no default knifing distance for freedays and warden has to call it out

Tora (Fate) pointed out in the rules it doesnt state a default knifing distance for freedays or anyday really, so wardens with no mic call a freeday and cts spray down anyone near them because they assume theres a "default knifing distance of 3" but the rule just stated to tell Ts to back off and if they don't after a reasonable amount of time you can kill them

3. There is no 3 second rule

Just a big one and its dying down but many CTs and Ts complain that a gaurd didn't give them "3 seconds" to complete the action when it really says a reasonable amount of time. Most admins know this rule but the chat spam and sometimes the steam chat spam happens

Are these sugestions that are supposed to be added, or are you saying that they don't exist and your making an arguement? (No offense I just don't understand) If so than that's a bit dumb to say there is no knifing distance, it will just cause more mayhem and thats all.

 

[EpicFlamingos]

We don't care until the misconceptions make us wait 8 minutes.

That's a blunt and rather rude way of putting it but your second part is mostly correct from what I've seen.
People like the rules when they can abuse them and it doesn't affect them, but the second that someone abuses the rules to do something cancer as warden or guard and kill them, they immediately get upset, start spamming admin chat and saying rules are bad.
Most of the rules are not bad, there are some things that could be changed to make things better in my opinion, but the majority of stuff is ok. Compared to when I first started playing, the rules have come a long way.
I really don't like the idea of adding more stuff to the FAQ, it's big enough as is. I think people should just start using their heads a bit more.

 

[Rogue Sniper]

You guys keep wanting more rules, but more rules causes issues with the player base. They enjoy the freedom from rules and enforcement so its not hard to keep it that way.

Common sense would solve so many of these issues that and stop being so kill hungry as a CT.

Some player is an inch out of the marker? Let it go...
Some player is 2 seconds late to a room or marker? Let it go..
Some player accidentally twitched or jumped or crouched? Let it go...

Basically, make like Elsa...

AND

LET

IT

GO

 

[Yokai]

You guys keep wanting more rules, but more rules causes issues with the player base. They enjoy the freedom from rules and enforcement so its not hard to keep it that way.

Common sense would solve so many of these issues that and stop being so kill hungry as a CT.

Some player is an inch out of the marker? Let it go...
Some player is 2 seconds late to a room or marker? Let it go..
Some player accidentally twitched or jumped or crouched? Let it go...

Basically, make like Elsa...

AND

LET

IT

GO

See, this guy gets it.

Thanks for the common sense. Seems to be a shortage around here imo.

 

[Matrix]

You guys keep wanting more rules, but more rules causes issues with the player base. They enjoy the freedom from rules and enforcement so its not hard to keep it that way.

Common sense would solve so many of these issues that and stop being so kill hungry as a CT.

Some player is an inch out of the marker? Let it go...
Some player is 2 seconds late to a room or marker? Let it go..
Some player accidentally twitched or jumped or crouched? Let it go...

Basically, make like Elsa...

AND

LET

IT

GO

Since you and vayz either can't understand the post, I'll be blunt
WHERE
DA
****
DID
I
SUGGESTING
A
NEW
RULE?????
I'm asking these misconceptions be added into the faq to help clear them up.

 

[Matrix]

See, this guy gets it.

Thanks for the common sense. Seems to be a shortage around here imo.

No he doesn't, common sense is a shortage I agree since reading the title isn't something people do anymore I guess

 

[Matrix]

Are these sugestions that are supposed to be added, or are you saying that they don't exist and your making an arguement? (No offense I just don't understand) If so than that's a bit dumb to say there is no knifing distance, it will just cause more mayhem and thats all.

These are ****ing misconceptions, not new rules, there the same rules as before that people love changing. Yes the no knifing distance would be mayhem hence why wardens declare one
DA dum tshhh

If you want a default knifing distance, add a new ****ing thread

 

[Rekty]

calm down matrix.

 

[Rogue Sniper]

There’s an edit button and a multi quote button on eGO forums fyi.

FAQs should be used to define terms, AKA stuff like what is the Jailbreak gamemode? What is freekilling? What is baiting? What are CT areas? What does last request mean?

If you have to define rules then they were not written clear enough in the first place or they may be too vague.

But here I’ll humor you about the three rules and some common sense on how to deal with them.

1) Why are you in front of cells before they open, you’re baiting by being too close to the Ts

2) Why are you on the same level as the Ts and not in CTs areas that are away from the Ts? Or why are you so close to the Ts anyways as you have a gun and it shoots projectiles? You shouldn’t bait the Ts and if they’re running at you they’re gonna knife you so...

3) Common sense, just give them time and don’t be so trigger happy. Obviously not everyone will think this but you as another CT can help change the mindset to be a bit more lenient towards the Ts and help change the depressing attitudes of killing for minor things.

 

[Matrix]

Humorous