Yacht Heist

[PepeDeCrepe]

So, I have been thinking about what we could do to create a different RP scenario and I have figured it out; we should add a yacht off of the west side in the ocean that has a "shop robbery" title where crims can use a boat, get to the yacht and go to a safe/weapons cache; depending on rng. That way cops can use their boats and helicopters to secure the yacht instead of the bank being the biggest heist, the yacht can have like 300k-400k, or like 2-3 rifles. That way cops get a new RP experience as well as criminals. I would love to see this implemented to freshen the server up a little bit.

 

[PepeDeCrepe]

To respond to your complaints
1. Don't know how this would make people try harder; maybe to be smart about what they do yeah, they definitely will try harder not to get caught
2. It would freshen up the server in a good way, because then those who wish to have a more active criminal rp scenario would be able to hold the yacht and keep cops off of it instead of having 1 way out through the main doors of the bank and just getting shot up, because now they are able to have a whole ocean of escape routes
3. Police officers would have to use helicopters and boats to get there so the heli's would get there quickly and soon would the boats; so to combat this the timer could be like 10 minutes giving enough time for the robbers to formulate an exit plan and the cops to formulate an entrance plan

 

[mom]

personally i think this would be way too robber sided. the whole process of getting to the boat for cops (getting units to the beach, spawning boats/helis) would be longer than it would take for the robbery to be completed, not to mention the fact that 90% of the cops would get sprayed down before they could even board the yacht.

 

[PepeDeCrepe]

Mom, that is why the cops have helicopters, to get there and secure the area for boats to then pull up with the rest of the cops would be a big tactic the cops could use, and if the robbers start spraying then maybe have snipers on the beach ready to shoot, or send in a negotiator to get the hostages out of the boat and the robbers captured later on in the pursuit.

 

[PepeDeCrepe]

hostages get left behind for the cops to then chase after the fleeing robbers to create a pursuit on the water.

 

[mom]

Mom, that is why the cops have helicopters, to get there and secure the area for boats to then pull up with the rest of the cops would be a big tactic the cops could use, and if the robbers start spraying then maybe have snipers on the beach ready to shoot, or send in a negotiator to get the hostages out of the boat and the robbers captured later on in the pursuit.

that may be how you would pull it off, but the majority of other criminals would just go trigger happy and ruin it for everybody.

 

[PepeDeCrepe]

then, put cops on the shore with snipers trained on the robbers' position that way if they do get trigger happy they go down.

 

[RedDragonKnight]

This is one of those ideas that sounds great in theory, until, you realize civs would just have only 1 guy in the yacht and everybody else as an outside shooter. And with a boat being the only ideal entry method, you're just a fish out of water.

When I say boat is the only ideal entry method, the helicopter can't take sustained fire, the fast rope option is extremely slow and cumbersome, and most units are not trained to shoot from a helicopter.

 

[PepeDeCrepe]

I understand your concern, but, you could have routines or something that police/swat can run in order to make this an actual RP scenario. Although you probably know more about this subject than me.

 

[RedDragonKnight]

I understand your concern, but, you could have routines or something that police/swat can run in order to make this an actual RP scenario. Although you probably know more about this subject than me.

We almost never have the units online to deploy swat to begin with.

 

[PepeDeCrepe]

 

[Summer]

Jay jordy Inkery RedDragonKnight

Let's revisit this suggestion.

 

[Inkery]

Timer would have to be decently high say 10 minutes or so because cops would need the time to grab their boats for staging but more heists doesn't seem like a bad idea to me especially if we bring back the old script where they would have to drill a vault etc to help delay the time and add some rp.

 

[jordy]

Same as INK the time will be at least 10 minutes

 

[RedDragonKnight]

It's all fun and games until they call outside shooter and have 50 people with sniper rifles posted up on the docks.

 

[Jolly]

I mean it would give a chance for SWAT to deploy their own snipers are possibly get Air One in the air as support, but I do have to side with RDK on this. Most robbers wipe their butts with RP, they wanna shoot cops and get the money so as soon as we show up they're opening fire.

 

[Cryptic Strolski]

It's all fun and games until they call outside shooter and have 50 people with sniper rifles posted up on the docks.

Lets be real here. If the crims want to play this as a "50 people with snipers" scenario, they'd already be in trouble for failRP. The whole idea here is to invent new and more interesting RP robberies. So if a single criminal thinks he's brilliant and tries to rob the yacht alone, he's screwed. If a small group of 4-5 coordinated crims decide to rob the yacht, they will need a plan other than simply sniping the police force because again, it would be fail RP to snipe the police force before they can even arrive to the scene and create a value of life situation.

Using the argument that crims won't "Play along" is weak because if they don't, they will be admin'd accordingly.

To prevent such an occasion, you could even go so far as to add an itty bitty script that pops text up stating "Warning, this will trigger a robbery RP event, if you do not take this event seriously and enact opportunity for value of life, you will be handled by admins accordingly".

Because the reality is, a real police force would have snipers available, at least one heavy duty weapon to level the boat available and so on. So to force the concept that only criminals can have heavy duty weapons that police don't have access to would be power role playing which is also against the rules.

End of the day, the goal here is to create new and fun interactions. Sure some people will attempt to ruin the fun, but it's no worse than a modder popping on to blow everything up with missiles that the admins generally swiftly remove. We should create something based on a fun idea, then tweak it to prevent abuse. We shouldn't be shooting ideas down just due to potential abuse.

 

[Marcoboy24]

I have to disagree, as you know i rp as a criminal my self alot and as far as i know im one of the few along side my "crew members" who have done a robbery, the way we did it is not gun blazing, but we setup a plan and executed it just perfectly, A yach heist would just mean A new and fun scenerio we are going to have to make a plan for and make sure its going to work without having 50 snipers or going gun blazing, And as pointed out if cops use snipers or air force one will make it only harder for us to come up with a good plan.