Jailbreak - warden icon, !rebel

[kaZZ]

Remove the warden icon that is above warden. It usually gives away the wardens position and kind of unfair for the warden.
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Make !rebel a command (Also found in !lr, 8, 2), and lets tweak it so that 1 alive CT gives 80hp and 20 armor. The armor will make it so the T will not get aimpunch. I'd say this is kind of a buff, cause the only reason why the rebeling T dies is cause of aimpunch and the T cant really do anything about that.

 

[kuantum]

Remove the warden icon that is above warden. It usually gives away the wardens position and kind of unfair for the warden.
(https://prnt.sc/pmeoyb)


Make !rebel a command (Also found in !lr, 8, 2), and lets tweak it so that 1 alive CT gives 80hp and 20 armor. The armor will make it so the T will not get aimpunch. I'd say this is kind of a buff, cause the only reason why the rebeling T dies is cause of aimpunch and the T cant really do anything about that.

I don't think it's unfair to the warden. I mean, he's in heavy armor and all blue, it's not like he already stands out like a sore thumb.

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[kaZZ]

I don't think it's unfair to the warden. I mean, he's in heavy armor and all blue, it's not like he already stands out like a sore thumb.

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Im saying like if the warden is crouching at like a headshot angle, his body is completely hidden but the icon gives it away.

 

[kuantum]

Im saying like if the warden is crouching at like a headshot angle, his body is completely hidden but the icon gives it away.

Okay? Everyone should know where the warden is at any point in time. I don't feel like that's bad.

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[kaZZ]

Okay? Everyone should know where the warden is at any point in time. I don't feel like that's bad.

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Lets say the first warden died, and there are Ts with guns, the next warden will try to hide and take some cover and give a command. He obviously wont stand in the open.

 

[kuantum]

Lets say the first warden died, and there are Ts with guns, the next warden will try to hide and take some cover and give a command. He obviously wont stand in the open.

Yeah, but I don't think it's OP. If the T's have a gun, the round is pretty much over.

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[kaZZ]

Yeah, but I don't think it's OP. If the T's have a gun, the round is pretty much over.

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I've killed the warden so many times cause of his icon, it gave away his spot. I think its abit unfair for the warden, the warden cant fight back.

 

[kuantum]

I've killed the warden so many times cause of his icon, it gave away his spot. I think its abit unfair for the warden, the warden cant fight back.

The warden can definitely fight back they just choose not to or they rely on their CTs.

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[kaZZ]

The warden can definitely fight back they just choose not to or they rely on their CTs.

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Then his body is visible, which makes the icon useless. If warden is behind a thin wall where he cant see out of, he cant fight back, but the Ts can just wallbang and hit him because they see his icon.

 

[kuantum]

Then his body is visible, which makes the icon useless. If warden is behind a thin wall where he cant see out of, he cant fight back, but the Ts can just wallbang and hit him because they see his icon.

If the icon pops through a thin wall, that's a bug. If he's crouching behind a little barrier, that's not a bug, the warden just sucks at where to hide.


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[heidi]

i dont play on JB too often, but i can understand what you are saying by the warden icon.

The warden is just fine being a blueberry, where no one had a single complaint xD The icon is unnecessary overall imo.
if its genuinely something people complain about as warden, then i don't see why it shouldn't be removed.

 

[kaZZ]

If the icon pops through a thin wall, that's a bug. If he's crouching behind a little barrier, that's not a bug, the warden just sucks at where to hide.


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Yeah i know that but still, the other guards and terrorists don't have it.

 

[kuantum]

Yeah i know that but still, the other guards and terrorists don't have it.

Other guards don't need it, because it's not important to know the guards' location. Terrorists don't need it at all.

Warden gives commands and if the warden can give commands such as "Follow your warden" then he needs the icon.

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[kaZZ]

Other guards don't need it, because it's not important to know the guards' location. Terrorists don't need it at all.

Warden gives commands and if the warden can give commands such as "Follow your warden" then he needs the icon.

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The warden is a big blue smurf already, at this point the icon is a disadvantage.

 

[kuantum]

The warden is a big blue smurf already, at this point the icon is a disadvantage.

The icon does nothing more to disadvantage the warden than the big blue armored hunk of himself. Like I said previously, the warden should know when and where to take warden. If it does it in a position where he can give out his position, then he should get merked.

In fact, when the warden takes over and talks, he has the voice chat indicator on his head. Why not remove that too?

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[heidi]

The warden is a big blue smurf already, at this point the icon is a disadvantage.

*blueberry

 

[kaZZ]

The icon does nothing more to disadvantage the warden than the big blue armored hunk of himself. Like I said previously, the warden should know when and where to take warden. If it does it in a position where he can give out his position, then he should get merked.

In fact, when the warden takes over and talks, he has the voice chat indicator on his head. Why not remove that too?

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The mic indicator is actually useful, the icon is not useful, its the opposite.

I'm just gonna end the conversation here, this isn't really helping anything. Lets just leave it up to the TT.

 

[TomSL]

The mic indicator is actually useful, the icon is not useful, its the opposite.

I'm just gonna end the conversation here, this isn't really helping anything. Lets just leave it up to the TT.

not our decision
this is a balance decision, not a bug, therefore it's up to CS leadership to decide

 

[Jacko]

+1 For removing the Warden icon. When Jailbreak 1.5 was in the works rebellers used to have a similar icon but it was removed because of how annoying it gave away ones position. Warden having this similar icon is basically a massive target letting everyone know where he is. This is good for T's to know who is wardening but thats already hinted with Heavy armor plus blue color.

Many times as a Warden, I will try to take cover behind a box but it is pointless as the icon is telling everyone where I am located. T's are already winning the majority of the rounds and having this icon is a burden for Wardens and the CT team. Let's get it removed.

Also +1 for making !rebel into a command during LR. If I remember correctly this used to be a command but was removed after a major update. Now for the balancing of armor+hp I'll leave that to TT to decide whats right.

 

[Itachi]

+1 I completely agree with what Jacko and Kazz have said oh as well as heidi.