A look back, curious thought and discussion.

The spy used to be a gentelmen's class, with a select few sneaking in and wreaking havoc. Now it seems like every person with a dead ringer or cloak and dagger just rush across the map to invade, usually not being stealthy at all.
It makes me sad when I see a friendly spy get killed that would have survived if he only had known of stealth!

My main issue is with poor spies just running through sapping and then dead ringering. If you don't have the skill to actually finish off a building without setting off a manhunt that inevitably gets me killed as well, then don't try!
 
My main issue is with poor spies just running through sapping and then dead ringering. If you don't have the skill to actually finish off a building without setting off a manhunt that inevitably gets me killed as well, then don't try!

lol, you may be referring to people like me, I often cause massive man hunts on Egypt and GPit, I've seen many a friendly spy be killed because they wandered into an area where I had been causing mass mayhem and hysteria in my enemies :thumbup:. Only thing is that I get away while still getting the kills lol.
 
lol, you may be referring to people like me, I often cause massive man hunts on Egypt and GPit, I've seen many a friendly spy be killed because they wandered into an area where I had been causing mass mayhem and hysteria in my enemies :thumbup:. Only thing is that I get away while still getting the kills lol.

Hey, i never have seen you playing spy, so you specifically haven't done anything to bother me. And at least you are getting kills, most of the bad dead ringer spies don't even get kills
 
lol, I've never been to a vanilla server, road trip anyone?

One weapon that I would like to have seen early on is the Scottish resistance, that weapon truly makes me feel like I'm an actual defender, and should be feared if someone walks in on me. Running around cutting people's heads off is fun and all, but demo's true power lies in his ability to defend well.
 
I personally think that if valve didnt implement these updates alot of people would not play this game. It is true what alot here have said and I completely agree with everyone of you guys. TF2 used to require alot of skill and now valve has dumbed down alot of the game play in order to let alot of those with below avg. skill to be able to playl. I used to love the spy before any update, people who played spy had no way of letting thier cloak recharge unless you uncloaked and there was a very small window on being able to use it. I can see how almost noone would play spy now if there was no updates and those that would play spy about 80% would be horrible at it. I used to love playing spy, but this recent update has made spamming redonkulous and I seem to die from random nades or crockets much more often. I have been taking a break from TF2 in hopes that the update blows over and people get back to playing thier own class. Just my opinion.
 
I personally think that if valve didnt implement these updates alot of people would not play this game.
I don't quite agree with that, look at how many people still play the xbox 360 version. It still hasn't got any of the updates or maps :crying:and there are still quite a few people that play it daily.
 
vanilla tf2 and vanilla wow ftw!

yes i tied the two together. crafting, weapon unlocks/upgrades/sidegrades and trading on the horizon? fps mmorpg anyone?

need targe with +stamina and nature resist for blackmesa acid pool prz.
 
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I don't quite agree with that, look at how many people still play the xbox 360 version. It still hasn't got any of the updates or maps :crying:and there are still quite a few people that play it daily.

Ummmm... currently every day there is about a max of at max 60 players on xbox version... without the updates the pc version would probably be the same except maybe not because the PC is tf2s system origin.
 
TF2 has become a bloated disaster of a game. It is just another project that is continually wasting time Valve could be using to finish the Half-Life series. To make it even worse they are going to make Left 4 Dead 2 downloaded content. Disgusting. The sad this is, I used to love Team Fortress 2.
 
To be honest, I probably would have gotten bored of TF2 by now if it hadn't been updated. I really enjoyed the first experiences of TF2, but eventually the novelty would have worn off and I would have moved on. Sure, there are bad aspects of the upates but they do hlp add veriety to the game.
 
To be honest, I probably would have gotten bored of TF2 by now if it hadn't been updated. I really enjoyed the first experiences of TF2, but eventually the novelty would have worn off and I would have moved on. Sure, there are bad aspects of the upates but they do hlp add veriety to the game.



valid point. free content is free content. at least valve has not abandoned this game like ea did for bf2

/shakesfistatea
 
I like most of the new updates, tho certainly not all. The new weapons for the most part are strictly situational. I believe it was done in response to certain classes being op'd in certain situations, and other classes being ineffective in certain situations. Also less dependence on medics is a good thing as there were never that many to begin with.
 
The whole thing is still a convoluted game of rock paper scissors. People are just mad that you can change one class which used to be a rock to be scissors to another class's paper.
 

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