Why PC is better than consoles in every way

Consoles are better at these things
* Hardware consistency (not having to upgrade all the time)
* Racing games
* Third Person games
* 3d platformers
* Ease of use

Pcs are better at just about everything else.


You might not have to upgrade your hardware all the time, but when a new console comes out you'll have to buy it in order to play a sequel, for example.
 
what a horrible presentation.

that powerpoint sucked. It's full of anecdotal evidence and for almost every argument FOR the PC you can use that same argument AGAINST the PC.

I?m going to attack each slide and you can refute my claims. I don?t own a console anymore and my PC is top of the line, but this was a horrible video. You want to leave here feeling informed? Read this:

Slide 1: Multiplayer

Free online multiplayer? I guess we forgot about the PS3 and the Wii, then? Strike one.
As many accounts as you want in ?many games?? And the benefit of this is?? How many Steam accounts do any of you have, and for what purpose do you need more unless you were banned? How is this relevant at all? Strike 2.
Most multiplayer games give you voting options to choose maps and session settings on console, there is just no single person who can make these determinations. Strike 3.

Slide 2: Online community

PC gamers are overall more skilled? What does that mean and how do you make that determination? How do you know the best Halo 3 multiplayer gamer is has less skill than the best CS:S gamer? Console gaming clans have websites, too.

We?re talking about organization? On TV in the last 3 months I have seen: FIFA worldwide tournament for console, Halo 3 LAN tournaments, Madden tournaments on ESPN, and more. They are organized, too. There is not a shred of evidence or sources for these conclusions. PC gamers simply agree with the claims because they support their own opinions. Strike four.

Slide 3: Control
Head shots and multi-kills are easier to line up with the mouse. Oh. No. Multi-kills are probably just as hard to get on the PC as they are on the console? Why? IF it?s easier on the PC, it?s easier for everybody. The precision boost doesn?t just apply to you, it applies to everyone else which effectively levels the playing field. I don?t see people playing console MW2, coming to PC and just owning everybody. They get smoked like a turkey, because the precision is relative and universal. I agree that a mouse is more precise (for me), but it doesn?t translate to skill because it?s easier for everybody else, too. Strike five.

Slide 4: PC Versatility
This is the worst part of the presentation and does as much to work against the argument for PCs than it does to support it. Having to pay for additional or better components to gain performance is the worst part of PC gaming. Console gamers don?t need better performance because they already run every game at 30-90fps with nice looking graphics. Xbox 360 was released in November of 2005. If any of you still have a PC from 2005 you are probably scrounging for money to buy a whole new PC that will even play BFBC2 on decent settings.

Meanwhile, BFBC2 comes out for the Xbox 360 in a matter of weeks and it will run over 30fps and the graphics will be beautiful. I don?t have to upgrade my 3 year old Xbox or make any special configurations, it simply works and looks gorgeous on my 50? Plasma TV.

Just buy a graphics card to improve performance? That's fine, until your CPU and memory bottleneck and a new graphics card will do NOTHING to make that better. You?ll have to upgrade everything. Did you forget to mention that a good graphics card or processor costs much as the entire console? ?Customization? comes at a premium. Strike six.

Slide 5: Game Price
It?s funny that you put Modern Warfare 2 on the slide that states ?PC games are never more than $50. MW2 is $59.99 for PC. Strike seven.
Big releases are almost never just $30 or $40, what are you talking about? Name one big release that went for so little and I will name a hundred console arcade games that sell for even less. Did you forget that console had arcade games, too? Oops. Strike eight.

I love Bioshock. I wanted to play the second one, but I don?t care for multiplayer. I don?t have a console, so I had to spend $50 bucks to play 15 hours of single-player campaign. You know what would have been nice? If I could have rented the game for 8 bucks and returned it when I finished it. Same with Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect 2. I spent $150 bucks for single player campaigns that I could have spent just $20 to rent at Blockbuster. Cheaper games? Pfft. Strike nine.

Slide 6: PC Price
We?ve been over this. ?If you already have a computer, PC is cheaper? is a pretty poor argument. Good luck getting a gaming PC for 600 bucks and running BFBC2 on any kind of decent settings. Strike ten.

Slide 7: Console gamers arguments
Who says PC gaming is anti-social? Cite ONE source to have said that? Have they ever heard of LAN parties? Ventrilo? IRC? Forums? PC gaming is social in many ways that console gaming cannot and vice versa. Nobody wins that one.

Slide 8: Built for the future
What a joke AND we?ve been over this. Your parts will bottleneck, one part will simply not be good enough to upgrade and be able to play games in a year or two at the same quality as consoles can. When it comes time to buy a new fancy console you?re probably going to pay about 400-500 bucks. If you want the same performance as that console you wouldn?t get a motherboard and a graphics card for that much money. X360 will last probably 6 years and play all the latest and greatest games. Your PC will probably last 3 and if you don?t drop hundreds into it you?ll chug along with mediocre FPS and settings on cutting-edge gamers. Strike 11.

Overall
These arguments are juvenile and grounded in zero factual knowledge. The evidence is personalized and without sources to back them. This is a PC puff piece filled with opinion and invalidity and I certainly didn?t feel ?informed? after I watched it.
 
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Just playing devils advocate here. But with a console, you never have to put in the game and wonder if it's gonna work. Many a time in my younger years I would go and buy a game for the PC only to put it in and see that it takes me 10 minutes to go 5 feet. It's a very frustrating expierence especially when you just pop the game in the console and it plays. It doesn't matter what game or what year. There is not checking if your CPU is compatible or if your vid card is good enough. You just push it in and play. And it's no wonder why currently consoles are beating out PC's in terms of gaming (I do not mean this in the sense of quality).

There is also the aspect that when a developer makes a game, there's two routes they have to take. For the PC, when that game is released, it is auto set to play at the lowest quality level possible. This way people with plain jane computers still have a sneaking chance to get in on the action. This is done so that more copies of the game can be released, which is more money. Now on the console end of it, the developers know the hardaware they are going to deal with. It is not gonna change and is the same for everyone. Because of this, the developers can design the game at it's peak of graphics potential.

P.S. So no one eggs my house, I will take my PC over my PS3 anyday.
 
I must be in the minority but I don't think either pc or consoles are better than each other. They both have their strengths and weaknesses, along with some platform exclusives.
 
Just playing devils advocate here. But with a console, you never have to put in the game and wonder if it's gonna work. Many a time in my younger years I would go and buy a game for the PC only to put it in and see that it takes me 10 minutes to go 5 feet. It's a very frustrating expierence especially when you just pop the game in the console and it plays. It doesn't matter what game or what year. There is not checking if your CPU is compatible or if your vid card is good enough. You just push it in and play. And it's no wonder why currently consoles are beating out PC's in terms of gaming (I do not mean this in the sense of quality).

There is also the aspect that when a developer makes a game, there's two routes they have to take. For the PC, when that game is released, it is auto set to play at the lowest quality level possible. This way people with plain jane computers still have a sneaking chance to get in on the action. This is done so that more copies of the game can be released, which is more money. Now on the console end of it, the developers know the hardaware they are going to deal with. It is not gonna change and is the same for everyone. Because of this, the developers can design the game at it's peak of graphics potential.

P.S. So no one eggs my house, I will take my PC over my PS3 anyday.
It's really not that hard to keep upgraded on your hardware. Buy stuff, max everything for 4 years then do some upgrades, repeat.

I've never bought a game questioning if I could run it.
 
It's really not that hard to keep upgraded on your hardware. Buy stuff, max everything for 4 years then do some upgrades, repeat.

I've never bought a game questioning if I could run it.

Same, i just read the requirements/recommended and comment "oh i quadruple that one"
 
PC gaming is better for some very simple reasons. Keeping in mind "better" being relative to my opinion, and the fact that I hate sports games. Though I do find racing games to be perfectly viable on a PC. I had a lot of fun with NFS Underground.

Reason #1: You have more control over your gameplay. The setup of your system, directly impacting performance of the game. Type of controller input. Controllers are perfectly possible. As are novint falcons, keyboard + mouse setups, REALLY AWESOME keyboard + mouse setups if you're willing to pay a little more, etc. You cannot do this on a console. You've got your system, and if the game runs choppy, well then it runs choppy. And this does happen. Perhaps not often, but it does. On a PC? Finding the game running a little slow? Go buy another card. You upgrade - and you gain performance. The CryEngine everyone's freaking out about that's supposed to be used in Crysis 2? Yeah, it already looks like that on a PC. The consoles...can look great. But PCs can look greater. (More on this in Reason #2.)

Funny thing, a lot of times when you upgrade your console - you LOSE access to a lot of your older games! My goodness. Hard to believe 'eh? Unless you want to lug around your old PS2, good luck. Not very often that happens on a PC.

Reason #2: Mods. Mods, mods, mods. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion? One of my favorite games of all time. And I still play it a ton. Get in some high resolution texture packs, and it's textures look better than 90% of modern games - and it's 3 YEARS OLD. That is awesome, completely and utterly. You've got mods that redo the entirety of the game. New clothes, new models, new armor, new quests, new continents, new factions, etc. You also have access to bug fixes console users don't, which can be incredibly helpful.

Let's list off a few games I play that I've had to (or have chosen to mod).

Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, Mount & Blade, Battlefield 2 (config file tweaks to fix some bugs), Halo, Far Cry, Fable, DoD 1.3 (sound pack, yeah!), Half-Life 2 (bullet time mod, awesome stuff), the list goes on and on... Console users don't like the fact that they go bald when their evil in Fable? Too bad, they have to deal with it. Oblivion players don't want to look like crap when they're a vampire in Oblivion? Shame shame. Got a bug in a quest, and the developers won't set you up a download update? Tough luck. If you were on a PC you could just console your way through it.

Reason #3: MMORPGs. Sure, you can theoretically do them on consoles...kinda. Kinda, maybe. But PC gaming will be dominating the MMORPG genre for a long time. And for some people, that's all there IS to gaming.

Reason #4: A PC can do more than just game. But here's how it ties into gaming - third party programs. Not hacks, but things like VENTRILO! Sure you have some voice chat systems in PS3's online or XBox Live. But nothing like the freedom and beauty of Ventrilo or Teamspeak. Or let's say I'm playing a single player game and I need to look something up. Alt + Tab to the rescue. Be it getting into a different Ventrilo room, responding to an IM, checking something on the forums, or looking up a console command...PC can get it done. Or let's say I need to record some footage to make a wicked video. A heck of a lot easier to do on a PC than a console. And it'll probably look better, too.

Reason #5: PC gaming is, in spite of ALL this...a dying breed. It's sad, but it's true. It's really cool to be a part of the "underdog" type of gaming, yes?

Reason #6: Oh, I also forgot. Most console gamers also own a PC of some sort, they're necessary for a lot of things. The way I see it, console gamers can't claim they're saving any money when they still have to go out and buy a PC - even if not related to gaming. Because you see I, as a PC gamer, do not have to own a console for anything. I can do my internet, my games, my JOB, my socializing, my artwork, my research, my movies, hell even my TV - right here at my computer. Which covers all my gaming. And sure as hell winds up being cheaper.

Console users, cannot make this claim. And to do all of those things, need to wind up also buying a PC (not things like movies, but a lot of the others). All those who own both a PS3, XBox 360, AND a PC (many people here) spent a ridiculous amount more than I did on this PC - more than I ever will over the next 4 years on this PC. Console users, in the grand scheme of things, will at some point likely need a PC. PC users...in the grand scheme of things, will at some point...not likely need a console.

Consoles are for people who just want to sit down and play the games, without actually having much control over their gaming experience. It's really that simple. There's nothing "wrong" with it. But there's really not much going for it either - unless you count having hundreds of thousands of people who also don't care about anything more than BOOM HEADSHOT to be buddies with. Sure you can play most games looking pretty good at a somewhat decent frames per second. But it won't look quite as good, and you don't have the bug fixes and other benefits of a PC that directly affect your gameplay. Oh, and in spite of what you might think you read online - the human eye can tell the difference between 120 and 60 frames per second.

They're willing to boast about how they don't have to upgrade their system, yet their games can all become a mute point (unless you're keeping your old systems and rehooking them up) when a new console is released - their games generally cost more (though typically only by about $10), AND they can't mod or fix bugs in the games to extend the longevity of them - thus increasing the amount they're paying in relation to time gaming.

...sad...sad.
 
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My friends and i had this argument for weeks...

Eventually we lost interest, because ITS ALL PERSONAL PREFERENCE!!!!!!!
 
This is funny, and wrong, considering PC gets some hard copies of the xbox and PS3 versions of games, thus making the console "better" in those categories.
 
Ok, each of them have their strengths and weaknesses, one is better at ______ and the other is better at _______. One is not "better than the other and every single way."

The argument of which is better gets old, just play what you like on what you like and have fun.

:)
 
Slide 4: PC Versatility
This is the worst part of the presentation and does as much to work against the argument for PCs than it does to support it. Having to pay for additional or better components to gain performance is the worst part of PC gaming. Console gamers don?t need better performance because they already run every game at 30-90fps with nice looking graphics. Xbox 360 was released in November of 2005. If any of you still have a PC from 2005 you are probably scrounging for money to buy a whole new PC that will even play BFBC2 on decent settings.

Meanwhile, BFBC2 comes out for the Xbox 360 in a matter of weeks and it will run over 30fps and the graphics will be beautiful. I don?t have to upgrade my 3 year old Xbox or make any special configurations, it simply works and looks gorgeous on my 50? Plasma TV.

Just buy a graphics card to improve performance? That's fine, until your CPU and memory bottleneck and a new graphics card will do NOTHING to make that better. You?ll have to upgrade everything. Did you forget to mention that a good graphics card or processor costs much as the entire console? ?Customization? comes at a premium. Strike six.

I have nothing against consoles but I do think you lose functionality on them (MW Lean versus MW2 no lean went backwards in gameplay mechanics if you ask me) just one point.

As to this part of ronpaul's statement I play on my 28" monitor at 1900 x 1200 native via HDMI and can go down to 1080p and used to play on my 56" tv via a 50' cable when I used my laptop, TF2 looks awesome on my tv, so if I wanted to I could plug my gaming PC as well into my tv via HDMI and lose resolution to play on the larger screen.

In all I say play on what you like, I still use my 360 and the only reason I haven't gotten the PS3 is I'm waiting for the price to come down. Don't see why I should pay that much for a console just because it has a BD drive when I already have a BD player that was less than $200. I will get a PS3 probably sometime this year since the prices are dropping.

Reason #5: PC gaming is, in spite of ALL this...a dying breed. It's sad, but it's true. It's really cool to be a part of the "underdog" type of gaming, yes?

Lets be truthful here because if you play any game for any length of time it will not be on a console it will be on a PC, because lets face it more than 75% of console players will play a game until they beat it 90% of the time and then go trade it in for a new game. My kids do this and it drives me crazy cuz you just spent $60+ on that game you played for a week and traded in for $20! This is the only reason people think PC is a dying breed but, gamestopo is full of brand new traded in console games within 2 months of its release for about $20 less than the new price.


You can have my PC, 360 and soon to be PS3 when you pry them from my cold dead fingers!!!!


They all have a purpose and place depending on how and what you like to play. Now if someone would get around to making a controller I can put on my head or some sort of implant so I can play by thought I would be extremely happy!!!!!:biggrin:
 
PC FTW

Nuf Sed

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It's really not that hard to keep upgraded on your hardware. Buy stuff, max everything for 4 years then do some upgrades, repeat.

I've never bought a game questioning if I could run it.

Yeah my point exactly, during those 4 years, your buying more stuff and spending more money, where as the console, it just sits there and is; plug and play. There is no need to upgrade. I didn't say that it was hard to keep upgraded, it's the fact that you do.
 
Yeah my point exactly, during those 4 years, your buying more stuff and spending more money, where as the console, it just sits there and is; plug and play. There is no need to upgrade. I didn't say that it was hard to keep upgraded, it's the fact that you do.

My PC does all my gaming (including MMORPGs), my creating new content for my gaming, my job, my artwork, my music, my movies, my TV, my web browsing, my studying, my advertising/promoting, my Ventrilo, and more. I've owned it for nearly a year, can play every game I want to own maxed out, and won't have to upgrade for another year - and even then, only a video card. Which by that point will say would be...$200. Which will be necessary for my job, not only my gaming.

Consoles just sit there, plug and play, because that's all they do. Perhaps movies, if you feel like it. But really, whenever you want to do something other than, such as much of what I mentioned above, you have to go spend money on a PC anyway. You're not saving any money if you still have to shell out the money for a PC in the end.

To say something is cheaper, you have to take the two - look at what they do, and ask the question "Which of these does these things for less money?" Legitimately.

What you're asking is: "Which of these does a fraction of these things for less money?"

Yes, consoles cost less.

They also do a lot less. Even in games.

XBox 360. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. Main quest, standard guilds, pretty much over and done. Especially if you play it for a certain amount of hours and trigger the A-Bomb bug, which breaks your save game causing you to start over. There is no fix, or way to avoid this for console users. It's 3 years old, after all.

PC. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. Main quest, standard guilds, new houses, new high resolution textures rivaling those of modern gen games, a simple fix for the A-Bomb, an unofficial patch created by a player that fixes over 2,000 bugs, new armor, new weapons, the construction set to make your own content - be it islands, dungeons, houses, caves, continents, NPCs, or what have you. Or you could just download one of the SEVERAL overhaul mods that change almost the entirety of the game and how it works. Free, no less. All for free. My goodness. All of this collectively expanding the game's playability 10 times over.

Console version costs $10 more.

...who's saving money?
 
Saying you don't upgrade your console is wrong. Consoles are disposable computers, they get out dated as soon as the new console comes out. Old consoles, like old PC's, are novelty items, sure. But you can't play RTS's on a console, you can't play "good" RPG's on console, and console FPS is easy mode. As soon as the new xbox comes out/ PS3 your WHOLE system is out dated, and you'll have to pay the $600 to upgrade it. While I have parts on my computer that are 4 years old and they do not need to be replaced. and if something comes out that I will need to replace these items, the next UPG will only cost me around $200. And get to keep my games and everything.

Racing is also far more superior, if you get the right equipment, on the PC. I have played some amazing set ups.

I can spend $1000 for something that can play every game for the next 10 years, or 400 for something that could be replaced as soon as the developers have decided they aren't making money.

Also; I hook my computer up to T.V.'s through HDMI all the time. It is a nicer picture, and T.V.s have really poor resolution. My 22'' will have the same resolution as much of the 40'' and up T.V.'s. Projectors also work fine with my computer.

The only system that has anything on the PC is the Wii.

I didn't bother to read much of this thread, I might be repeating others. Skimmed over the arguments, here's my thoughts.
 

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