Do violent video games really effect children?

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Not bad blackhawk, although you want to be careful with your definition of a gun. Muzzle-loading weapons don't fall into this (and in fact are not legally classed as firearms) but you would be hard pressed to defend that they are not.
My views on violent video games causing youth violence are very complex (anybody want to delve into Erikson's Theory of PsychoSocial Development?), but the gist is that they are never a root cause. Youths may act out something from a violent video game, or even be inspired to actions by them, but that is never the basis of the problem. Be it environment, mental defect, or what have you, there is something else at play when such violence is perpetrated.
There was teen violence before video games, and the trend has continued. The only difference is that now there is a scapegoat.
 
Billy, I somewhat understand your reasoning there. I'm 15 years old, and I see it in my Modern Warfare addicted classes. Every boy constantly talks about it, and goes home to obsess about it more.


I don't play it personally, but I feel like within teens, it's begun to dominate some of their lives.
 
It does not start any violent actions. It can help fuel childrens violent acts but the child needs to be used to regular violence and being a deviant before the video game affects them. If a game can be fun for hundreds of thousands without problem, then why blame the video game if one child with some sort of issue goes on a violence spree?
 
giant facepalm.

Gee this debate has been goin on as long as i can remember, at least since the original NES in my childhood, Doom, castle wolfenstein on pc then Senate inquires into such violent games as mortal kombat in the 90's.



"One of the most common criticisms of video games is that they allegedly increase violent tendencies among youth.[8][9][10] However, several major studies by groups such as The Harvard Medical School Center for Mental Health, The Journal of Adolescent Health, and The British Medical Journal have shown no conclusive link between video game usage and violent activity."[11][12][13] One study did find an increase in reports of bullying, noting, "Our research found that certain patterns of video game play were much more likely to be associated with these types of behavioral problems than with major violent crime such as school shootings.[11][12] One of the first widely accepted controversial video games was developer Exidy's 1976 title Death Race, in which players controlled cars that ran over pixelated representations of "gremlins". The game caused such an outcry that it was pulled from store shelves and profiled on 60 Minutes. Long Island PTA president Ronnie Lamm pushed for legislation in the early 1980s to place restrictions on how close video game arcades could be to schools, asserting that they caused children to fight.[14] Portrayals of violence allegedly became more realistic with time, and so politicians such as U.S. Senator Joe Lieberman conducted hearings during the 1990s regarding what he referred to as "violent video games" which, in his opinion, included such games as Mortal Kombat.

"Some researchers believe that while playing violent video games leads to violent actions, there are also biological influences that impact a person's choices. According to Sean P. Neubert of Rochester Institute of Technology, a person who is biologically predisposed to aggression will be more strongly influenced by violent scenes and thus will have a greater risk for carrying out destructive actions. For example someone with Antisocial personality disorder, like Charles Manson, has a greater risk of going out and shooting someone after playing hours of Grand Theft Auto or a game of a similar nature. By exposing someone to violence who is already predisposed to lack a sense of judgment and be reclusive is like turning on a switch and giving them the fuel to go out and perform dangerous acts of violence on themselves and others around them"

This is an old debate and will continue for along time with no end in sight and I agree with Billy Victory, video games are an easy scapegoat for social ills and lack of parental supervision and just a symptom of worse underlying cause, Bugs Bunny was violent too, ban cartoons?

Personally I dont care anymore about public censorship of games or other media, it should be the responsibility of the parent or guardian to do whats best for their children. Let's move on to the rise in Childhood Obesity, that is a worse crime in my opinion and a form of child abuse and neglect, really a 5 year old should not have adult health problems.
 
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Billy, I somewhat understand your reasoning there. I'm 15 years old, and I see it in my Modern Warfare addicted classes. Every boy constantly talks about it, and goes home to obsess about it more.


I don't play it personally, but I feel like within teens, it's begun to dominate some of their lives.


The important point made here is that EVERY BOY talks about it (yes I understand this is hyperbole, but the point is that there are many who do). Every boy, however, has not shot up the class, or killed someone just for fun. While they may "obsess" over this game, they don't act it out. People also obsess over NASCAR (I live in the South), but I have yet to see someone drive 200 miles an hour down the freeway (in person-the point is that it is a rare thing, and the fact that people care about it doesn't make them act it out).
 
and when i was a kid we all obsessed over pac-man and asteroids, galaga, centipede then it was Zelda...yada yada, ad infinitum, nothing new
 
The important point made here is that EVERY BOY talks about it (yes I understand this is hyperbole, but the point is that there are many who do). Every boy, however, has not shot up the class, or killed someone just for fun. While they may "obsess" over this game, they don't act it out. People also obsess over NASCAR (I live in the South), but I have yet to see someone drive 200 miles an hour down the freeway (in person-the point is that it is a rare thing, and the fact that people care about it doesn't make them act it out).

Actually, there's a show in Canada called "Canada's worst driver." it's fairly amusing, and they've had a few seasons of it. There easiness man who was over 40 years old, and spent a lot of time playing racing games. The result? He drove poorly, and exceeded the speed limit by over 70km/h at times.


Yes there are very few cases of people going around killing others. There has been a few reports over the years though of teens and young adults going on "GTA style" rampages, stealing cars and shooting random pedestrians. These people were often avid gamers.


Now clearly this doesn't happen often enough for it to be a problem. But are video games altering peoples sense of reality?
 
That's why I added the parenthetical "in person." I realize that people do, but the point is that very few do.
 
Actually, there's a show in Canada called "Canada's worst driver." it's fairly amusing, and they've had a few seasons of it. There easiness man who was over 40 years old, and spent a lot of time playing racing games. The result? He drove poorly, and exceeded the speed limit by over 70km/h at times.


Yes there are very few cases of people going around killing others. There has been a few reports over the years though of teens and young adults going on "GTA style" rampages, stealing cars and shooting random pedestrians. These people were often avid gamers.


Now clearly this doesn't happen often enough for it to be a problem. But are video games altering peoples sense of reality?

but does this happen because they play the games?? or do they play the games because they're personality just includes that violence/bad driving etc??

a violent person is attracted to the violent video games...but violent video games will not change your entire personality and turn you into a murderer or anything....however it may effect you negatively, like developing a temper
 
All I'm gonna say is that I both saw the Rocky Horror Picture Show and played my first M Rated game when I was three. I think I turned out alright...maybe.
 
There have already been some great points in this discussion and I also want to add a kudos to everyone for treating each other so civil in what could potentially be a volatile debate.

In my opinion, this comes down to a parenting issue. Parents/Guardians need to be involved in the lives of their kids, and that's the bottom line.

Truer than that however, I really think Billy Victory really nailed the root of the issue. Well said!
 
Im teaching my 8 year old daughter and my ten year old son how to shoot. I took them to the gun range and before I went I used my insurgency and unlimited hunter games to teach them safety and how to aim down a Iron sight and a scope. In short I dont think they are teaching kids violence at all.
As far as the kids themselves I think a lot of it is how they are raised to begin with. I personaly have 4 Kids ages 2 to 11 and my kids are great. they watch me game and have been for 4 years now and there not voilent kids at all.
I also have a lot of guns in my house and I used games to show my kids the danger of them and why they shouldnt play with them. Games dont teach kids violence parents teach kids violence. Show your kids love and care for them and they wont bat a eye at a violent lifestyle. All kids need is the love and attention from there parents. thanks,,,,robo out
 
Dont know if this already is said but i just dont feel like reading all the 31 reactions:)

I think we arent effected by violent videogames. But the kids who are 5-12 now, are effected, i think. Becaus the childeren from now are way different then i was when i was 10, they have such a big mouth and know much more about swearing, sex and violence then when i was 5.
Onces a 12 year old kid said to me(16) "F-OFF <swearword>", serious, when i was 10-12, i didnt had the balls to say that to a 16 year old guy.

But... im not sure if this is becaus of videogames, can also be the way the grow up in a city, and i lived till my 12th in a small village, maby everything in a city is just different:)

 
i agree with robochicken a lot - we are all influenced with what we have in our lives, by our teachers, parents, whatever we do on our own...like game, movies etc it all influences us. however if you do raise your kids to know and understand what gaming and shooting etc is, and what the consequences are then they'll be a lot more responsible with those types of things.
if you teach your kids how to handle guns and stuff about them, then they won't hunt around to get them and end up blowing each others faces off
 
i agree with robochicken a lot - we are all influenced with what we have in our lives, by our teachers, parents, whatever we do on our own...like game, movies etc it all influences us. however if you do raise your kids to know and understand what gaming and shooting etc is, and what the consequences are then they'll be a lot more responsible with those types of things.
if you teach your kids how to handle guns and stuff about them, then they won't hunt around to get them and end up blowing each others faces off
yeah i really dont think its the games I think It's more of a problem of how kids are raised and weather or not parents pay attention to them they way they should making sure that they have the right understanding about life and what is exeptable and what is not. I think parents blame it on the games just to pass the buck..
 
well ive been playing games since i was 4 or 5 and and all killing games like 007 and ive never made that kind of thought about it but im 13 and ive never done that ---->that kid has anger isues :P
 
Every single human being is differently mentally:therefore, we can conclude that if a person play video games, everyone will react differently to it. Some people turn out fine, while other it brings out the rage in them. (I don't know if that is true, but a lot of the people who join the military or anything else in that area, are a bit influenced by video games.) For example, that story about that child that killed 15 of his classmates, doing nothing but head shots just like he would do in Counter Strike.
 
ya ive been watching tv shows playing violent video games my hole life doesnt mean im voilent even tho i am somtimes
 
My prime belief is based around common sense.

If you see a 2 foot kid with morning hair and sleep-deprived eyes with a M-rated game, you know somethings gonna go down.

If you see a 16-year-old Aisan guy with glasses and a sophisticated look that says "I have a 5.0 GPA" wanting to buy an M-rated game, but without a proper ID, he should still buy that game.

Rather than requiring an ID, just dont let small children buy violent, sex-filled games like God of War or Mass Effect.
 
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