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iiNfamous said:
Shadows, it would specifically SAY 2.0 or 2.1 on the name of the card if it were a 2.0 or 2.1 card. Go on newegg and look at the PCI-e x16 cards and there's only ONE HD 5k series on there. Is it listed as a 2.0/2.1? No.
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Dude you're worring too much about this, they're ALL backwards compatible, and if you even had PCI-E x16 1.0, which you don't, then any PCI-E x16 2.1 or PCI-E x16 2.1 would run on that PCI-E x16 1.0 lane, and you'd still get about the same performance, but like I said, about 4% less.
 
I know they're backwards compatible, but I don't want to waste money on something I can't use to it's full potential. I do not plan to upgrade my motherboard, and it all depends on whether your motherboard will support above what the slots are.

Large companies like Newegg make sure there are no errors in the product information/product name. It could potentially land them in a lawsuit. It would be considered "False advertisement" because their customers wouldn't be getting what they were expecting to get.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_advertising - I know it's capable of being edited by anyone, but it still gives you information on it.

I'm not sure if my motherboard supports 2.0 or above because it's not a brand new computer. This computer had started it's manufacturing in April of 2009 I believe. The motherboard most likely started a year or two earlier. I don't want to risk money for things I'm not sure of.

My father is a 35+ year experienced computer engineer, and he agrees with me that my motherboard might not support it. Therefore, I'm solid on my choice.

This was meant to be a thread to tell me what you guys thought of my find, not give me better suggestions (that may not even work).

If someone made a typo, they would have had someone report that to them by now and they would've fixed it. That product has been there for a few weeks, maybe a month.

The core clock on the card I found is actually quite more powerful than most of the newer 2.0 products that cost more.

Comparison of a 2.0 x16 card that's *supposed to be* more powerful and my find.

My 5670 PCI-e 1.0/1.1 x16


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The 5750 2.0 x16


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As you can see, the supposedly "higher ranking" video card takes more energy to run at a lower speed for $20 more. I'm not saying all video cards are like that, this was just a quick example. I think I'm getting a good deal for the HD 5670 that I found opposed to getting weaker performance, even if it's not that much, for more. Most of the video cards that are newer and more powerful than the 5670 I found would cost $10+ from the 5670.
 
Well, if your going to get it, then do it. You asked for our advice, we gave it and your denying it. So the thread should pretty much be over.
 
Cut Chem!st said:
Well, if your going to get it, then do it. You asked for our advice, we gave it and your denying it. So the thread should pretty much be over.
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Agreed.
Its a little rude to ask for our help then completely ignore it.
 
I wasn't necessarily asking for help in the first place. I just wanted your opinions on my choice & find.

*EDIT* This is Tech Talk. There's a Subforum called "Tech Help" in it. If I was asking for help, I probably would've gone there. Correct? Not trying to be rude at all.
 
If I ignored your opinions, I wouldn't have even considered it. I gave it thought before I replied. I didn't just read it and disagree with you right off the bat. I know that I could possibly use a 2.0 card that's maybe slightly more powerful than the card I'm purchasing, but I also run the risk of my motherboard not supporting the slightly more advanced technology of 2.0 and 2.1 pci-e cards.

As I said, I'm not trying to be rude at all here. I was simply wondering what you thought of my find. It completely matches my computer judging by the information on the website page for my machine and the information given on the website page for the video card and power supply.

I think we're all getting a little worked up over a small misunderstanding...
 
iiNfamous said:
If I ignored your opinions, I wouldn't have even considered it. I gave it thought before I replied. I didn't just read it and disagree with you right off the bat. I know that I could possibly use a 2.0 card that's maybe slightly more powerful than the card I'm purchasing, but I also run the risk of my motherboard not supporting the slightly more advanced technology of 2.0 and 2.1 pci-e cards.

As I said, I'm not trying to be rude at all here. I was simply wondering what you thought of my find. It completely matches my computer judging by the information on the website page for my machine and the information given on the website page for the video card and power supply.

I think we're all getting a little worked up over a small misunderstanding...
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No, no, I'm not worked up.
But you seriously have nothing to worry about for the PCI-E slots. I mean, you did say your computer is from 2009, and the motherboard from up to two years back. PCI-E 2.0 has been the stardard for how long now? Since 2004 or 2005, right? And your motherboard is from 2007+? You're safe.
 
Well I pretty much proved that card and your motherboard are PCIe 2.0 supported. I bought a prebuilt computer 2 years ago(mid 2008), it has an HD3200 onboard (yours is a 4200) and it had 2.0.

Also, Newegg has had many, many typos that I've noticed, and Tiger Direct as well. Maybe they expected people to use common sense when viewing that video card, who knows.

Oh and one more thing, in your ATI Control Panel you can view your specs to see if your motherboard has 2.0 or not.
 
I believe 2.0 came out in the 2007/2008 area. DDR2 RAM came out around 2004, though. PCI 1.0/1.1 was the standard up til 2007/2008. Now it's 2.0/2.1

Technology is flying past us, huh?

And you seemed a bit annoyed in a few of your posts, hence the reason I said we're getting a little worked up.
 
shadows, you may be right, but I personally haven't seen any mistakes on there and I constantly browse on there to see if anything new is popping up. But, I remember seeing a post about this machine somewhere because someone couldn't get a new video card to work on it and it was because the motherboard didn't support it (it was a pci-e card too). So, yeah... That's why I want to get something that's spot on with the machine instead of something maybe slightly ahead of it.
 
iiNfamous said:
I believe 2.0 came out in the 2007/2008 area. DDR2 RAM came out around 2004, though. PCI 1.0/1.1 was the standard up til 2007/2008. Now it's 2.0/2.1

Technology is flying past us, huh?

And you seemed a bit annoyed in a few of your posts, hence the reason I said we're getting a little worked up.
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In consumer graphics cards, PCI-E x16 2.0 has been the standard for quite a while, not 2007/2008. And its still 2.0, 2.1 still runs at 2.0 speeds.
 
I know, Phobus. It's the same story with 1.1 cards. 1.1 cards had some problems, though. I need to do a little research sometime. I'm trying to run off of strictly memories from things I've heard on tech sites. Hah. But, I hadn't even seen a 2.0 card on any computer catalog sites similar to newegg until 2008, and they were quite a bit more expensive than a PCI-e 1.0/1.1 card at the time.
 
2006(2007 for most) is when 2.0 was becoming a standard, when I bought an 8800gtx for $600. Nvidia was on top of their game and DX10 was the future of gaming. Sounds familiar huh?

The old 7000 series Nvidia cards were all 1.0, and they were released just before in early-mid 2006. Which is another reason why you don't hear much about them.
 
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