To All Fellow Spies

[supertrooper]

Alright supertrooper. Let me just say that I don't play the spy often, if at all (except the last day or two; great practice). So I'm a fairly neutral observer. However, I want to counter your point.

The Soldier is a useless class.


I said it. And I'll even back it up.


What are they good for? Everything a soldier can do, another class can do much more effectively. Think about it. Let's talk about taking out a sentry: A soldier can't kill a tanking engie alone, period. Unless he uses splash damage really well, there isn't a damn thing he can do about a sentry nest, even when he out-ranges it. If he out-ranges it with the engie there, he'll never kill it, and if he out-ranges it without the engie, then every class in the game can kill it; everyone has a ranged weapon that can outdistance a sentry. For actually killing nests, demos are far superior, as are heavies. Even pyros will often be more effective.

Idk what soldiers your watching, but a soldier can EASILY take out an engie nest. For the demo, heavy, and def a pyro, they need to waste an uber to take that out. a soldier not only doesn't need the uber, but can often take out without even having a medic on him.

Yes, almost all classes have better mobility that a soldier, but thats WITHOUT him rocket jumping. with him rocket jumping, a soldier can travel nearly as fast as a scout. and he don't need to worry about health cause he has a pocket medic.

on top of that the soldier is arguable the best class to pocket, even in pub servers. He gives the medic the best combination of protection and mobility. A demo needs to be extremely good at pipes to protect a a medic, and a heavy is practically standing still while he's attacking.

As far as ubers go, a good medic should be healing atleast 2 players, if not three while using the uber, so it shouldn't be a soldier only uber.

As far as crits go, ill give you that one, demo def is best, followed by natasha heavy. Hell, i'd probably uber a scoot before i let someone under low/mid level of a soldier take a cit.

But i feel like im missing the point. You can go thru all the other 8 classes and see area's where they can be helpful, but when you get to the spy class, and you really boil it down about the only thing you can say about him is he is at best and annoyance to the other team.

(I've been saying this all along, this is in scenarios where you have a good team and good players. in a complete noob server, yea, a spy can probably cause havok, but not against people who have there wits about them)

 

[TcVinsky]

Andddd....stop.

As we know, it's better to work as a team than to do things solo. So lets be a team by not arguing over silly things. Locked.