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Alrighty guys. I know some of you might think im stupid for doing this and totaly ignorant. But I saved up for a while and bought a computer with an Nvidia 6150SE Graphics card in it thinking it would be good just because it was Nvidia but I guess I was wrong. Well I have done my research and I made my cousin come over today and I asked him if I could just simply change and customize the graphics card (Being that it was a desktop computer) But he said no because it had too much of a small amount of ram or something like that. Im sorry but I really dont remember. But the point is. I think I downgraded. The desktop itself is developed by eMachines it is basicaly this -http://www.bestbuy.com/site/eMachines+-+Desktop+/+AMD+Athlon%26%23153;+II+X2+Processor+/+4GB+Memory+/+5001whxm51gbOgORrn6M8JOUlLjDtR0yY7Rx&cmp=RMX&id=121820452GB+Hard+Drive/9974319.p?skuId=9974319&ky=9351 - But it has a disk tray and it has a 6159SE. Im looking to change the graphics card on it but it is a small desktop and My cousin said something about the RAM being to low or something like that. Please help. If you need more information please feel free to tell me or add me on steam
 
Oh and if you dont understand what I mean. I am trying to change my graphics card on a computer but there are certain obstacles in the way. (READ UP FOR MORE INFO)
 
Is it SKU 1016502 on the best buy site?

Your other link is broken.
 
The ram being too low makes absolutely no sense. No offense, but I don't think your cousin knows what he's talking about.
The biggest obstacles I could think of are a new psu and the size of the case, which would limit you in getting low profile cards only.
 
Define PSU. im a complete noob to this stuff. And hes very good with computers I just cant remember what he said []:
 
PSU is powersupply unit. The OEM (original equipment from manufacturer) isn't that great, so you'd probably have to replace it to put in a new graphics card.
 
You really should have talked to us before wasting money on a PC from bestbuy, we could have saved you money and got you a PC that would max things and last years.

I can't look at the link, but I'm hoping the case isn't too small with a mini power supply, or your in trouble.


You have 4gb of ram, that's perfect so I'm not sure what your cousin is talking about.
 
Ph?bus said:
PSU is powersupply unit. The OEM (original equipment from manufacturer) isn't that great, so you'd probably have to replace it to put in a new graphics card.
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Yes thats what he was talking about.
 
Cut Chem!st said:
You really should have talked to us before wasting money on a PC from bestbuy, we could have saved you money and got you a PC that would max things and last years.

I can't look at the link, but I'm hoping the case isn't too small with a mini power supply, or your in trouble.


You have 4gb of ram, that's perfect so I'm not sure what your cousin is talking about.
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Well..The case is small and has a mini power supply. Just my luck. 600$ in the trash
 
reflex99 said:
OEM PSUs are generally fine. They can deliver their rated wattage with ease. As long as it is 200ish watts or more, I could see you adding a decent 1/2 height videocard like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102875
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Do you remember what your specs were before you bought the new PC? I'm guessing you upgraded at least your CPU/Ram/Hard drive. The video card above may also be better, so I wouldn't say you trashed 600$. You actually got DDR3 Ram which is pretty funny that they added that but not a decent video card, lol.

Source games are more about CPU power than video card power, so If you could get a decent card you would be fine and you will probably get more fps than you used to be able to.

How long have you had the PC, do you have the option to return it? Either way, it's still probably a upgrade for you for everything except for the video card, which we can probably surpass on your old pc also.

Don't feel too bad, you got conned by Best Buy like most people that don't know much about PCs, they put new proccesors and ram but no graphics cards because they don't sell PCs for gaming. They also make them small, because people like small PCs for work and stuff but they are hard to upgrade for gaming.

Just next time, ask someone that knows and we could have sent you to a site that would build a gaming pc for you for the same price (guessing you wouldn't be up for building one your self), or help you upgrade a part.
 
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you just tackled the conflict! Well. Now i remember. I cannot change my graphics card because the PSU Is far too low. And the reason why I dont have much cpu speed or whatever is because the card is integrated! :D
 
Cut Chem!st said:
Do you remember what your specs were before you bought the new PC? I'm guessing you upgraded at least your CPU/Ram/Hard drive. The video card above may also be better, so I wouldn't say you trashed 600$. You actually got DDR3 Ram which is pretty funny that they added that but not a decent video card, lol.

Source games are more about CPU power than video card power, so If you could get a decent card you would be fine and you will probably get more fps than you used to be able to.

How long have you had the PC, do you have the option to return it? Either way, it's still probably a upgrade for you for everything except for the video card, which we can probably surpass on your old pc also.

Don't feel too bad, you got conned by Best Buy like most people that don't know much about PCs, they put new proccesors and ram but no graphics cards because they don't sell PCs for gaming. They also make them small, because people like small PCs for work and stuff but they are hard to upgrade for gaming.

Just next time, ask someone that knows and we could have sent you to a site that would build a gaming pc for you for the same price (guessing you wouldn't be up for building one your self), or help you upgrade a part.
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So what kind of situation am I in..I can give you the computers specs.. I just needa get my computer to run my games Alot better on higher settings
 
Twinki said:
So what kind of situation am I in..I can give you the computers specs.. I just needa get my computer to run my games Alot better on higher settings
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There are a few, you could buy a whole new case and move all your parts in with a new power supply and a good graphics card. (probably around ~300$ more, you can probably do this later)

Or you could go for a low profile card like reflex linked and you'll be good, your old comp I'm guessing had worse specs so you'll get better FPS with this new one anyway.
 
Cut Chem!st said:
There are a few, you could buy a whole new case and move all your parts in with a new power supply and a good graphics card. (probably around ~300$ more, you can probably do this later)

Or you could go for a low profile card like reflex linked and you'll be good, your old comp I'm guessing had worse specs so you'll get better FPS with this new one anyway.
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Honestly. Ill buy the low profile card that was in the link. Make my cousin set it up and im assuming that it will be able to run games like lord of the rings online and tf2 etc perfectly or without choppiness and lag?
 
Twinki said:
Honestly. Ill buy the low profile card that was in the link. Make my cousin set it up and im assuming that it will be able to run games like lord of the rings online and tf2 etc perfectly or without choppiness and lag?
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You really shouldn't lag that hard, you might have to play on lower settings or use a config to play "perfectly". But yeah, you should be able to play smoother than your last pc.
 
Cut Chem!st said:
You really shouldn't lag that hard, you might have to play on lower settings or use a config to play "perfectly". But yeah, you should be able to play smoother than your last pc.
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Well im mostly worried about it running this game right here---> [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vy4z8eGKWQ[/ame]
 
Random Access Memory (RAM) has nothing to do on whether you can upgrade your video card.

You need to know what kind of expansion slots you have, as well as you may need to upgrade your power supply for a new video card.

A standard computer today comes with a 300W power supply.

I see you have a small case with a mini PSU by reading some of your other replies.

Here's a pretty good case that only has 4 and 5 star reviews.
Thermaltake Armor A90 Gaming Mid-Tower Chassis With Cable Management Water Cooling SSD Support And Tool-Less Installation

It should be more than enough if you plan on upgrading.

We're going to need to look at power supply units if you plan on upgrading. eMachines are known to have problems with their power supply units.

This one is a little pricey, but it has high reviews.
CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

Ok, now, your main issue is your video card apparently.
I can give you two choices for this, but I don't know which will work since I can't see the specs of your computer.

PCI: EVGA 01G-P1-N948-LR GeForce 9400 GT 1GB 128-bit DDR2 PCI HDCP Ready Video Card

PCI Express: EVGA 01G-P3-N981-TR GeForce 9800 GT 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card


Until I can get more information about your computer, I can't really help you any further.

For now, take a look at my guide on disassembling and reassembling a computer:

You're going to want a anti-static wrist band. It makes it so you can use both of your hands consistently while you're tied to the case of the computer so that no static electricity can fry the motherboard or other computer parts. They're not expensive at all. This is optional, but highly recommended.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16899339002


If you're careful, you don't have to take off the CPU or it's heatsink & fan. If you don't trust yourself enough to handle the motherboard while it still has the CPU on it, I would recommend buying some thermal compound incase you need to put an extra coat of it on. This is optional.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835100007


You'll need some basic knowledge of the guts of a computer. Memorize where all your parts are. This includes the video card, memory sticks, and any other parts you are capable of removing. The CPU is the only slot that stands out on a motherboard if you don't look closely at the motherboard. I've known a few people to try to put a stick of RAM in a PCI slot and ask why it won't turn on and it just beeps at them.


A computer tools kit is recommended to make the job easier. Here's one for $17. The shipping is a bit expensive though (+$9). This is optional.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16896775042


Now that we have all that we need. Let's get started on the disassembly and reassembly of your PC!
Shut down your computer.
If your power supply has a switch on it, flip it to off (O). Unplug your power supply as well.
Open your computer's case.
Be sure you're working on a surface that doesn't conduct electricity and take off your socks if you have any on. Put on the anti-static wrist band. Put the clamp on the unpainted metal of the case.
Unplug all of the wires. If there's a clamp on the side of any of the plugs, be sure to press on the top of it closest to the wire itself or you could damage your components! Be sure to hold down the clamp's release until you manage to pull out the plug.
Take a screwdriver and begin taking out any expansion cards. Keep the screws organized and keep them on a towel to prevent them from rolling away.
If you have a shoebox laying around, place the expansion cards in the box against one of the sides of the shoebox, but leave room for the sticks of memory.
Remove the memory sticks, which have little white or black clamps on either end from your motherboard.
Remove the harddrive(s) and place them in the shoebox. Do not let anything touch the green silicon board on the bottom!
Remove your motherboard at this point. There should be nothing in the way of it. If you do not trust yourself to move the motherboard with the CPU still on it, then remove that. Be sure to keep the CPU itself in since it's not likely to fall off. Have your other case ready before you remove the motherboard. If it's a newer case it's likely to have a removable motherboard tray.
Take out the other components including your power supply if you're transferring that as well and put them in the new case before you install the motherboard. The CD drives go in and out through the front of the case, usually.
Follow this guide in reverse from the point where you removed the harddrives. You may have to put a new layer of thermal compound on if you removed the heatsink from the CPU. Be warned, if you touch the CPU or it's heatsink and it was recently on you can burn yourself severely!

Notes: When you begin working on the new case, before you do anything, ground yourself to it with the anti-static wristband like you did before!

The basic knowledge you need to know is what each parts does, how important it is, and where it goes. If you have any questions feel free to ask me or any of the other computer geeks in the tech talk section!

Have fun.
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iiNfamous said:
Random Access Memory (RAM) has nothing to do on whether you can upgrade your video card.

You need to know what kind of expansion slots you have, as well as you may need to upgrade your power supply for a new video card.

A standard computer today comes with a 300W power supply.

I see you have a small case with a mini PSU by reading some of your other replies.

Here's a pretty good case that only has 4 and 5 star reviews.
Thermaltake Armor A90 Gaming Mid-Tower Chassis With Cable Management Water Cooling SSD Support And Tool-Less Installation

It should be more than enough if you plan on upgrading.

We're going to need to look at power supply units if you plan on upgrading. eMachines are known to have problems with their power supply units.

This one is a little pricey, but it has high reviews.
CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

Ok, now, your main issue is your video card apparently.
I can give you two choices for this, but I don't know which will work since I can't see the specs of your computer.

PCI: EVGA 01G-P1-N948-LR GeForce 9400 GT 1GB 128-bit DDR2 PCI HDCP Ready Video Card

PCI Express: EVGA 01G-P3-N981-TR GeForce 9800 GT 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card


Until I can get more information about your computer, I can't really help you any further.

For now, take a look at my guide on disassembling and reassembling a computer:
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There are much better <$90 PSU units. Still. A combo for a case/psu would be nice.
 
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