Sandy Bridge Debacle

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"Sandy Bridge Debacle: What It Means for You
2:10 PM - January 31, 2011 by Tuan Nguyen - source: Tom's Hardware US

Hot on the heels of Intel's recall of its series-6 chipset known to everyone as "Sandy Bridge," we spoke to several motherboard and system manufacturers about what's going to happen for them, and their customers.

The error lies in Sandy Bridge's SATA controller, which at this time, is identified to degrade performance over time. But, what does this mean for motherboard and system manufacturers:

According to several major manufacturers that we spoke to, customers are calling asking to return stock. Since mass quantities of boards and systems have already been sold into the channel, systems builders are still waiting for official word from Intel on what to do. Surprisingly, top management at companies like Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, etc., did not even hear about this issue until this morning -- when everyone else found out.

This is definitely a major roadblock for Intel, and it means several things for you as a customer:

- If you've bought a Sandy Bridge system, you may be entitled to a free replacement.

Manufacturers told us that revised motherboards and notebooks based are unlikely to appear until at least April of this year, and Intel probably won't be supplying new chipset revisions until early to mid-March. However, replacements are unclear as manufacturers are informing us that details need to be worked out with Intel on how customers will be handled.

Intel claims that only 5-percent of Sandy Bridge owners will experience the flaw. But speaking with manufacturers, we were told that numbers appear to be far greater than that. Some companies told us that this is definitely a "panic-mode" situation for them.

Motherboards that you already have today will still work, but you may see performance drop over time.

- If you're thinking about a Sandy Bridge system, you will have to wait until at least April.

Clearly, buying a Sandy Bridge system isn't what anyone should be doing at this moment.

- Desktops, notebooks, servers are all affected.

This is a widespread problem affecting all products that are based on Sandy Bridge. Notebooks and up-coming Xeon-based servers may take longer than motherboards to see replacements become widely available.

- Expect delays in new availability.

Some companies told us that there is some shortage of copper and other materials from the manufacturing side. This could further introduce delays beyond an April time frame.

- Sandy Bridge updates.

Intel is expected to hold several conference calls with major manufacturers today and let them know how the situation will be handled. We'll have more details for you later this afternoon."

Original news post here.

Additional news report here.
 
Dang. Mid-april? My swedish sources were telling me end of february :facewall:
 
15% of boards.... do not care.

Even if i was effected, it would get replaced anyways.

X58 didn't have annnnnny problems :rolleyes:

EDIT: and that is total bull crap about not buying SB gear.




SB CONS:
slightly degrading perfomance over SATA on ONLY 15% OF BOARDS

PROS:
fastest on the market (980X=$1000, and only wins in 6 threaded apps)
5GHz 24.7 is cool
32nm process that doesn't suck
IMC that doesn't suck
cheap motherboards
native SATA6


whoever wrote that should have their keyboard shot.....with a 12 gauge
 
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15% of boards.... do not care.

Even if i was effected, it would get replaced anyways.

X58 didn't have annnnnny problems :rolleyes:

EDIT: and that is total bull crap about not buying SB gear.




SB CONS:
slightly degrading perfomance over SATA on ONLY 15% OF BOARDS

PROS:
fastest on the market (980X=$1000, and only wins in 6 threaded apps)
5GHz 24.7 is cool
32nm process that doesn't suck
IMC that doesn't suck
cheap motherboards
native SATA6


whoever wrote that should have their keyboard shot.....with a 12 gauge

I think you mean 8 gauge.
It's Tom's. What did you expect? :rolleyes:
 
This makes me lawl. Kinda sad, too. Losing so much money for pushing tech ahead that far. If I already had an SB mobo, I wouldn't be too worried. I've only got the one HDD anyways, and it's plugged into SATA 6 even though it can't use it. If it's possible, buying an SB mobo+CPU now might be pretty awesome if you can find some knee-jerk to sell it off cheap since it's "defective".

anandtech said:
Interestingly enough the problem doesn?t affect ports 0 & 1 on the 6-series chipset. Remember that Intel has two 6Gbps ports and four 3Gbps ports on P67/H67, only the latter four are impacted by this problem.
 
This makes me lawl. Kinda sad, too. Losing so much money for pushing tech ahead that far. If I already had an SB mobo, I wouldn't be too worried. I've only got the one HDD anyways, and it's plugged into SATA 6 even though it can't use it. If it's possible, buying an SB mobo+CPU now might be pretty awesome if you can find some knee-jerk to sell it off cheap since it's "defective".

It happens occasionally in this industry. Nvidia's Fermi comes to mind here, only their problem wasn't flawed design. It was mismanagement of that design.

Seriously, it happens. Nothing to get alarmed at. When there's a fix, get your replacement motherboard, and be happy.
 
Yeah, I understand that. My point was even if I had a defective mobo, I wouldn't have noticed. It wouldn't affect me. That means it's not my problem. If it does bug someone else enough to ditch a SB mobo, it'd be awesome to save some change from his misinformation.
 
actually, on OCN people are charging more for used SB gear right now.

500$ worth of gear is going for 600.


I'm thinking of trying this
 
Hmm... That would actually make sense. They won't be making new ones for a couple of months, and most people, like me, wouldn't give a crap about the defect.
 
I realllllllly want to sell my stuff.

I have so much other stuff i need to buy, but i have no monies
 
ugh.....my parents would kill me.....

Owned.

Why would they kill you? That'd be pretty dumb of them.
"Damnit Son, why are you getting into something you're interested in?" :thumbdown:
 
"dammit son, you loose so much of your own money by selling stuff...."
 
I knew EVGA was holding back for a reason.

15% is still enough to affect a total outcome of complaints and purchases, and when you're the biggest CPU manufacturer in the world, you don't just ignore it.
 

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