Battlefield 3?

[Cut Chem!st]

only thing i have against the BF games (maybe only BC1, little better in two) the fact that it took a whole clip of an assault rift to take someone down.
only problem.

Bad company isn't really an accurate representation of the battlefield series. The games before bad company didn't have bullet drop, and the bullets did quite a bit of damage. I never had hit reg issues. If anything counter strike is more randy than bf2 was.

 

[Orange_Kun!!!]

Bad company isn't really an accurate representation of the battlefield series. The games before bad company didn't have bullet drop, and the bullets did quite a bit of damage. I never had hit reg issues. If anything counter strike is more randy than bf2 was.

That's not entirely true. BF2 did actually have bullet drop. It might've been the first BF game to have it, I can't remember if Battlefield vietnam did or not as it's been too long since I've played it.

In BF2 Wake Island, if you understood how to use bullet drop you could neutralize enemy troops from the other side of the island.

 

[Cut Chem!st]

That's not entirely true. BF2 did actually have bullet drop. It might've been the first BF game to have it, I can't remember if Battlefield vietnam did or not as it's been too long since I've played it.

In BF2 Wake Island, if you understood how to use bullet drop you could neutralize enemy troops from the other side of the island.

Well, it didn't have bad company's bullet drop. It feels different, I never really noticed the bulletdrop in earlier games as much as I do in BC. It's been a long time since I've played BF2, and I'm not positive on it being in games earlier than BF2 either.

 

[labowsky]

Bad company isn't really an accurate representation of the battlefield series. The games before bad company didn't have bullet drop, and the bullets did quite a bit of damage. I never had hit reg issues. If anything counter strike is more randy than bf2 was.

well i havn't played BF2 in along time so i didn't know it if was the same deal. still everything was underpowdered in the BC games.

 

[Mcore]

only thing i have against the BF games (maybe only BC1, little better in two) the fact that it took a whole clip of an assault rift to take someone down.
only problem.

Nevertook more then 6 good shots to take someone down for me.
Try aiming. :3

 

[RustyPwns!]

Beast, I have no grudge, I could really care less TBH. There's PLENTLY of other PC shooters to play. I was merely answering Fatty's question on why BF3 isn't getting that much attention. And that's because it's not that great of a game because of the various issues I mentioned earlier.

And another major issue I forgot to mention about the BF series, with the exception of 1942, is that the games are HORRIBLY unoptimized. When BF2 came out, you had to have the top of the line rig to even attempt running the game. When BC2 came out, it was the same thing. As far as I can tell, BC2 is the only PC game that needs a quad core processor to run decently. Black Ops(and I'm only picking this because it's the newest shooter out there) runs flawlessly on my dual-core box with a 512MB 9800GT. Granted the maps in BC2 are HUGE and maybe that's part of the problem. But then again, if the majority of PC gamers can't run your game... well then you're already selling yourself short.

And MoH going platinum only proves that it was marketed well. That doesn't mean it was a good game. The fact that hardly anyone plays MoH NOW(and it was only released four months ago) is how you should really be judging the game.

Just keep playing cod.

 

[Slazenger]

It's nice to have your own opinions and share them, but I see no need to restate your opinions every time someone else posts in rebuttal to what you've said. This thread is starting to get personal-attack-ish.

That being said, I'm fairly excited for BF3, as it's incorporating the great team gameplay from BF2 with the excellent graphics, gameplay mechanics, and depth that the Bad Company games have. All other points aside, I can't see how anyone would say flying around in planes/choppers or driving tanks around the battlefield could constitute an unoriginal or lacking game.

Regardless of what you think about DICE/their decisions, they are producing games that are enjoyable to play. It's not all about who has the largest kill-streak or who can carry their team. It's about coordination, versatility, and dynamic gameplay.

 

[gingertonic]

It's not all about who has the largest kill-streak or who can carry their team. It's about coordination, versatility, and dynamic gameplay.

No, it is in fact all about getting the highest kill streak. I want to drop a tactical nuke on a small group of houses to win the game.

 

[LilShortstuf]

Yeah I am quite excited for BF3. So far the glimpses that we have gotten and the info that has been released makes it seem basically like DICE is giving us everything we asked for. *Drool*

only thing i have against the BF games (maybe only BC1, little better in two) the fact that it took a whole clip of an assault rift to take someone down.
only problem.

Yeah this is somewhat annoying... That is why the majority of BC2 players play on hardcore servers so that you can actually kill people with a reasonable number of bullets and be able to take out more than one person per clip. Switching from HC to normal is a rough transition.

 

[chapp]

It's nice to have your own opinions and share them, but I see no need to restate your opinions every time someone else posts in rebuttal to what you've said. This thread is starting to get personal-attack-ish.

Well that's how you see it but that's not how I see it. This forum is a way to have a conversation with people. Just because it's a different medium than a face to face conversation doesn't make it any less of a conversation.

The TC asked a question, I gave my opinion, then other people were addressing me and my opinion so I responded to them as well. Imagine Fatty and I were talking about BF3, he asks me a question, I respond, you hear my response and walk up and ask me something and instead of addressing your question, I just turn around and walk away. Seem a little awkward?

Just because this is an internet forum, doesn't make the conversation any less valuable. After all, there are real people behind these words.

As far as the conversation getting too personal, I can only speak for myself. I feel my responses were not negative or insulting. People can have conversations where they disagree back and forth and still remain civilized.

 

[gingertonic]

 

[IDigitalDeadI]

Yeah I am quite excited for BF3. So far the glimpses that we have gotten and the info that has been released makes it seem basically like DICE is giving us everything we asked for. *Drool*




Yeah this is somewhat annoying... That is why the majority of BC2 players play on hardcore servers so that you can actually kill people with a reasonable number of bullets and be able to take out more than one person per clip. Switching from HC to normal is a rough transition.

First off, lets hope DICE comes through with everything we want.
Secondly, when I played bc2 on 360, I'd usually go engineer with the uzi. I could say, with certainty, that I could get 2-3 kills per clip with it. I'm not sure if its just how people aim or what, but I never had a problem with dropping an enemy with a few rounds, even when I did pick an assault class.

 

[Fireskull]

It looks good, but only time and in-game footage will tell. There's too many good games coming out this year though, so it's not a definite buy for me yet.

 

[FaTtY-mIc-FaTFaT]

o yea one more thing, i think bc3 is going to have prone and cover system. cover i dont know, but i think in gameinformer prone is going to get implanted watch out for the camping snipers XD XD XD

 

[Orange_Kun!!!]

o yea one more thing, i think bc3 is going to have prone and cover system. cover i dont know, but i think in gameinformer prone is going to get implanted watch out for the camping snipers XD XD XD

BC3? Are you talking about the next Bad Company or did you mean BF3? It's pretty much a guarantee that BF3 will have prone sine the core games always have.

 

[Jeebus]

Never had much hit detection problems with BC2, but I have a pretty good rig. No problems before my upgrade either.

The allure of Dice games (excluding the Tier 1 multiplayer, they were told to do that by EA) is what the advisor said earlier. Teamwork. Accomplishing a goal through skill. Not just running and gunning all day long for the best KDR. If that's your thing, stick to CoD and CS:S. CS:S and CoD aren't perfect. I've been playing CS since before it was called Counter-Strike. I know a thing or two about FPS games.

I've played Modern Warfare and all the CoD games before it. In my opinion, Battlefied was always a testament to something greater than the headshot kill. More fun than a Gun Game server.

Flying in hot with a chopper? That's awesome. Rolling in heavy with a couple of tanks? Yes please.

I got tired of the snipers and campers in CS and CoD. They'd pick a small cubby or hole or box to sit behind, and shoot til someone stumbled upon them, knifed them, and humped their body. BC 2? I notice a sniper shot or actually hear the bullet wizz by my head, I have a chance to fight back. He's hiding in a building. If I have the means, I can blow his cover to hell and ruin his attempt on my life.

What could I do on CoD? Run for his hidey hole (if I saw the bastard and he still missed me) and hope he isn't watching the two entrances with a sub machine gun.

"Oh but you could shoot through the wall with the perk!" In real life, if my gun is big enough, it'll shoot through a plaster wall just fine. I don't need hollow points to bust through some wood planks.

CoD games got boring once they stopped having a reason to fight the enemy. Team Death match and Lone wolf games can only be played for so long by certain people. Sometimes you wanna just hop in a vehicle and run somebody over.

 

[Ducttape]

my thoughts to this thread = his expression


bot: I've played all the FPS games, and my take is: BC series implores players to use teamwork to accomplish goals; regrettably, COD, and the rest, are multiplayer-focused rage-camping lone wolf types. I do play COD, and it has it's perks, but when I want a more *mature* experience I have to lean towards BC. I was pretty much disappointed all around by the last MOH, so BC3 is, to me, looking like a great game on the horizon.

As a lutz, I have a lot of games on PC and on Xbox - it's a fun experiment to load the same game on both, and let people take turns playing both; for example, at a recent party, we fired up Bad Company 2 on 360 and on PC. We let people take 5 minute turns playing the single-player campaign on the 360, then had them switch over to the PC. The reaction was universal: OMG you can aim so much easier on the PC! yes, my thoughts exactly

 

[Jeebus]

I know right?

I got Bad Company on the 360 but purchased Bad Company 2 for the PC (at the request of a friend). Such a better experience!