This is what the world of FPS gaming has come down to.

[Sexy Smexy]

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This is my QQ of the week:

OKAY! Forget the K/D score.... Look at the points. Everybody on the opposing team literally outscored everybody on my team except for me. What was i doing different compared to everybody else? I WASN'T SPAWN CAMPING! That's about it.

Why are people like this? Why? I honestly don't get it. :confused1: I keep seeing people write stuff, cursing and swearing saying stuff like "We can't get out of spawn cos they are shooting or 'chopper circling' at us". If that were the case how did i get the most points and the ace pin while being on the losing team? How did i manage to capture flags on my own? Wtb teamwork.. :thumbdown:

I don't know... Is this the reason why some of you don't play Vietnam anymore?

 

[nice Pants]

yeah spawn camping is pretty hard to get a round sometimes, specially when they do it with a squad. I don't have Vietnam so I don't know but, if you don't have a teammate to spawn on away from spawn, I guess you'd be best to spray and pray or pray that your rocket hits some of them lol. Some of the more skilled players can probably get around it easily then I.

 

[iEye Captain]

Happens all the time in vanilla BC2 too.

It makes the teams very lopsided.

 

[bmonk3y]

the way people use the chopper in vietnam (spawn camping primarily), its alot more noticable because the chopper is so hard to take down in vietnam. I do not play on our vietnam server due to this!!

 

[KentuckyGhost]

Let me catch someone using the Chopper only spray enemy spawn on A eGO Vietnam server!!

 

[forty2skates]

I rarely play that server because for Vietnam I much prefer a full map rotation. That map can be a lot of fun but I think it can get lopsided too easily and then the less than daring all go sniper and refuse to venture far from the protection of uncaps. If there's still 450 tickets to burn through, no thanks, I'm out.

 

[xosniper]

Whisker and I did it a tad different last night. We weren't spawn camping per say, we were chopper camping. Hiding behind a rock by their chopper, when it would start to take off, tagged with a dart, then a teamworked double RPG. Giggles afterward.

 

[LilShortstuf]

Whisker and I did it a tad different last night. We weren't spawn camping per say, we were chopper camping. Hiding behind a rock by their chopper, when it would start to take off, tagged with a dart, then a teamworked double RPG. Giggles afterward.

And that is perfectly fine cause they have time to countermeasures the tracer off but Vietnam it does seem to be the worst. I do like Vietnam but it's very hard to admin the spawn campers/killers and some rounds I feel like that is all I'm doing. Map a new map would make that server a little better? Maybe Hastings would work better because like Heavy Metal it is a large map and therefore there can be multiple battles going on at once and also spawn camping is harder on Hastings.

 

[Sexy Smexy]

I rarely play that server because for Vietnam I much prefer a full map rotation. That map can be a lot of fun but I think it can get lopsided too easily and then the less than daring all go sniper and refuse to venture far from the protection of uncaps. If there's still 450 tickets to burn through, no thanks, I'm out.

Lopsided is one thing but the fact that i am able to capture so many flags on my own or even get out of my spawn with no problems while it's being bombarded and that my teammates sit around like useless blind hooligans all at the same time.....just makes me wanna say 'WOW'. Just 'WOW'.. I mean look at the screenshot i posted, what did my team do? I'm pretty confident when i say 'Nothing at all'.

I too agree on the full map rotation plan. I sent noxx a message about it maybe we'll hear something about it in the meeting thats happening soon. You are right Phu Bai Valley gets lopsided way too easily; game starts rush to B and game over.

Snipers aren't a problem at all if your always on the move. Choppers are a major problem that aids in lopsided matches simply because Phu Bai has close to no cover. Operation Hastings is probably the safest map with alot of similarities, cover and space to run. Operation Hastings spawn areas are also protected by hills and slopes so that alone solves the spawn shooting issue.

The Vietnam server is still configured to 500 tickets. I honestly think it works well. I find anything less that 500 tickets just ends too quickly but than again thats my experience. All in all, i think the server would benefit from having a full map rotation thingo added to it plus it'll make people happier. I think.

 

[KentuckyGhost]

I do like Vietnam but it's very hard to admin the spawn campers/killers and some rounds I feel like that is all I'm doing.

I agree with yeah. I get so frustrated sometimes :facewall:

Map a new map would make that server a little better?

Yeah the same maps seems to draw in griefers who know how set up camping every round and hold it and with current map at times it put one team at a disadvantage and when it ends see it all the time in chat "it's-payback time now" and then a lot players leave the game. :thumbdown:

Maybe Hastings would work better because like Heavy Metal it is a large map and therefore there can be multiple battles going on at once and also spawn camping is harder on Hastings.

This I agree with you here, this may bring a lot more players and even better switch up back and forth between the two. :thumbup:

 

[Sexy Smexy]

I agree with yeah. I get so frustrated sometimes :facewall:
Yeah the same maps seems to draw in griefers who know how set up camping every round and hold it and with current map at times it put one team at a disadvantage and when it ends see it all the time in chat "it's-payback time now" and then a lot players leave the game. :thumbdown:
This I agree with you here, this may bring a lot more players and even better switch up back and forth between the two. :thumbup:

You got my vote sir! :laugh:

 

[Pensive]

I don't think eGO cares about anything besides what the numbers say are the hot maps when the rotations are picked or in the case of the vietnam server, not picked. It doesn't matter how lopsided they are or how fun they aren't so long as they stay full and get ranked higher in the world statistics. What is not known obviously is that when most people look for a server to play on the just do a search and pick by what is a decently populated server with an acceptable ping, at least that is how I found the eGO servers in the first place. We have a lot of members that play on our servers and could keep them populated which would draw people just because they are populated. So why not do a poll and ask the people you rely on to keep the servers full, what they want to play? Seems to me that would be the most logical action to take. Though I have heard people ask many times for alternate maps just to be shot down in an instant because the magic numbers say more people play map a and so why bother adding map b.

 

[KentuckyGhost]

I don't think eGO cares about anything besides what the numbers say are the hot maps when the rotations are picked

I disagree with you sir. I feel the eGO Organization does listen to all and are open to all. That is what makes a great Organization great, is when the leadership listens to all members, pubbers; we build this organization and they keeps a open mine always in decisions for what is best for the Organization. Numbers are great, but there is more to that. (IMO)

It doesn't matter how lopsided they are or how fun they aren't so long as they stay full and get ranked higher in the world statistics.

I also don't agree; I feel this Organization does care and listen to every complain. Having a trash out organization and servers that only care about numbers does not listen to the pubbers or unit members; Will ONLY soon declined in value and soon less important valuable players (donation) will declined to play because of bs on servers. This will also filter down to lose of unit members and soon lose of donations to keep the Organization running. Having a Organization that only cares about numbers, and not open for suggestion is wrong and only looking for failure in the long run. (IMO)

So why not do a poll and ask the people you rely on to keep the servers full, what they want to play?

I am with you here, this is good idea. I Suggest write this up for the unit drop box and any other Ideas you may have sir.

 

[bobola]

I play in PuiBai most of the time because there's no other normal server other than Heavy Metal which I dislike because it is too big for a decent infantry fight.

However, I'm starting to play HC mix because PuiBai is getting me frustrated alot.

Although the fact that instant respawn is fun and makes the game faster (for those who love to use vehicles) I think this lead to an frustation of many players.

From playing a Viet. Army perspective (with no points capped)
- Any decent/pro pilot can take out numberous of tank(s) before getting shot down. Even if a tank manage to take out the heli, it would just be back at you in no more than 30 seconds or even less.
During those 30 seconds, the tank might be just getting repaired back to full and then starting to move up the heli would be back at you again.

This result in tank spending their whole time trying to take down heli and not acting as a *tank* to help infantry move out to capture points.

- I know the rules of conquest no spawn camping at base rules well.
With 3 tanks in main base trying to take out the heli(s)/other tank before moving out, you be finding those 3 tanks to be in the main base the whole round and not moving out.
Maybe 1 ~ 2 which makes it out to near B or C cap before taken out by an heli or group of infantry because there are no backup. Rest of team are still in spawn.

But I think is unfair for causual players who just want to have fun and get a decent round just to be butt _ _ _ _ by a pro heli who spend his time getting on his heli death after death.

Sure, you might be getting great score because you a good player.
But remeber not everyone is playing at the same level, not every squad are working together.
Some players require other to be carried and to follow others.
This is a public server, expect people NOT to work together and do their own things.
Dont expect all of them to know what to do.
Expect most of them to teamstack.

I play in PuiBai alot, and would really love to see some change in it.
I'm sure other public players would be too. In this week, I have been in many games where Viet Army would just sit at spawn the whole time.
This is NOT because they dont want to go out and cap a point, is they cannot.

-Possibly a map change to differ the play style (i.e no heli/tank map)
-Lengthen spawn time of vehicles
-Rules for staying staying in own spawn and shooting (mostly for tanks)

Just my 0.02

 

[Sexy Smexy]

However, I'm starting to play HC mix because PuiBai is getting me frustrated alot.

I'm pretty sure i can say that for the last 3 months before and since i've joined eGO; i'm the most active player holding an eGO clan tag on the Phu Bai 24/7 server until a few days ago. I'm playing heavy metal a lot more because of that ^. oh well.

 

[rekneffect]

@ Sexy - Noxx is gone for a while since the tornado that hit Alabama. so you might want to consult someone else.

In terms of what maps are chosen. It basically is the choice of the leadership. So if you do wish to have a different map for Phu Bai server or the Heavy Metal server then I would suggest putting a poll on the division discussion forums. It would allow all active members to vote and also give leadership an idea of what the BC2 community would like to play. Voting can basically be used for any of your current issues with the servers.

 

[Thykon]

the way people use the chopper in vietnam (spawn camping primarily), its alot more noticable because the chopper is so hard to take down in vietnam. I do not play on our vietnam server due to this!!

+1 on this

I can honestly say this is the only game purchase I regret from the last 5-6 years.