Jumping into spec

Broadsword

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I was asked not to jump into spec after the side I was on sadly lost to stop myself being domiated amd was told not to do this as it was a rule of the server, I checked your Motd where the rules are and could not find it, could someone enlighten me on the issue please.

An idea would be to disabled the "points" at the "end of round" but let the slaughter continue.
 
I am sure someone else can and will answer this better. Spec jumping is clearly not permitted mostly because it is unfair to the winning team, and considered stat padding. I believe it is covered under cheating/exploiting, you are avoiding the free kill at the end of the round in a way not intended by the developers. It is also kinda immature, since all you accomplish is keeping your stats up (KDR, rank) without earning it, and depriving the winning team from the opportunity to earn achievements/domination.
 
I am sure someone else can and will answer this better. Spec jumping is clearly not permitted mostly because it is unfair to the winning team, and considered stat padding. I believe it is covered under cheating/exploiting, you are avoiding the free kill at the end of the round in a way not intended by the developers. It is also kinda immature, since all you accomplish is keeping your stats up (KDR, rank) without earning it, and depriving the winning team from the opportunity to earn achievements/domination.

Pretty much how it was told to me so I'd say you hit the bulls-eye here Wewo. I believe points are disabled at the end of the round but I could be wrong, I disabled my stat notifications some time ago so perhaps somebody with them on can enlighten us all.
 
Well you cannot jump spec as your team lost and after that back to team. Its not allowed our servers!!!
 
If we included every single possible rules violation explicitly in our Motd, it would become very unwieldy indeed. That's why common sense is so prevalent at Edgegamers.

But if you do desire more info, within one of the stickies in our DoD general forum titled "DoD:S FAQ's", Blue Stealth goes into detail on why we disallow spec jumping --

Stat Farming and Stat Padding are both against eGO rules. The punishment for taking part in either one of these actions can vary from a stern warning to a permanent ban from all eGO servers and nine out of ten times will result in the latter.

Note that even though this post is in DoD:S General Forums, most of eGO's divisions have a stats system. And stat padding/farming violations in other divisions will meet strict punishment. That being said, if you wear eGO tags outside our servers and are caught stat padding/farming on others' servers you might face even stricter punishment for the violation than had you broken the rule on our servers.

Now, an explanation of what stat padding/farming means. To start off the two terms stat padding and stat farming, for all intensive purposes and as far as leadership is concerned, mean the exact same thing. So do not get confused by hearing both terms. For the rest of this post I will use the term 'stat farming' for simplification.

From Urban Dictionary (edited for DoD:S)

Quote:
Also known as "point farming", "point padding", "stat padding", etc, is most frequently used in reference to online games such as Day of Defeat Source, Counter Strike Source, etc. Stat farming is the act of recieving undeserved points due to abnormal and unhelpful game play. One of the most common occurrences is when 2 or more players go out to a flag and alternate capturing the flag continuously (flag captures are worth six points), without the intention of shooting at each other, or with the intention of simply gaining points. The less extreme examples of stat farming is when a player returns to their spawn area to change class in order to respawn in order to replenish ammunition, nades, health, etc. Once you leave the spawn area, defined generally by spawn protection, you are not allowed to return to your spawn area and change classes for any reason whatsoever. This process can be repeated indefinitely, and this sort of devious stat farming will ALWAYS result in a permanent ban from eGO servers. Other less extreme examples, which rarely but can result in a permanent ban, include binding "kill" and/or using it to suicide after a round has been won or lost. Running out of a window and taking damage from a fall is fine, but any console command used to kill yourself it strictly prohibited in all situations with the exception of being stuck. The same goes for "spec jumping", switching to spectator during OR after a round is won or lost in order to avoid being killed or hurt.
If you see someone spec jumping or suiciding by bind for the first time ignore it and do not take action other than warning that player against it in text chat (not over a mic). After a warning if the player continues to stat farm, record a demo of the player breaking the rules mentioned above and submit a ban request in the same fashion you would request a ban and submit a demo for a hacker.

Specific situations will be mediated by leadership on an "as they occur" basis, but this guide should give you all a very good idea of what to avoid and what to look for.

As people have mentioned in the past in numerous threads, playing for points is not against the rules. If you want to, for example, hide close to a flag waiting for an enemy to capture it, then immediately take the flag back without shooting at or killing the enemy just to gain points that is fine, as long as you ask nobody on the enemy team to not shoot at you. Again, stat farming is the act of recieving undeserved points due to abnormal and unhelpful game play. Stat farming in most cases will be determined through common sense.

If you ever have questions about or regarding an incident of stat farming, please go straight to an advisor to seek clarification. I will periodically add Q&A's to this post for complex incidents with correct responses.

-Blue

To answer/confirm Ravage's query above, stats/points are still in effect at the end of the round. IMO, jumping to spec at the end of the round goes against the spirit of the game, points or no points. Why else would Valve have a "Take No Prisoners" (In a single life, kill 4 or more players in the victory time after winning a round) achievement?

Hope that helps.
 
It is extremely unsports man like and unfair to the winning team, when these bad players win they race around like mad trying to kill as many player's on the loosing team as they can , but that makes them the loser. I will w/k/b any player who does this even if they are our members. I, when on the loosing team prone in a corner or just stand there. It does disrupt the game and other players do complain about them.
 
It is extremely unsports man like and unfair to the winning team, when these bad players win they race around like mad trying to kill as many player's on the loosing team as they can , but that makes them the loser. I will w/k/b any player who does this especially if they are our members. I, when on the loosing team prone in a corner or just stand there. It does disrupt the game and other players do complain about them.

fixed...
 

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