Poll: Should 'no-clip' mode be changed on the 24/7 de_dust server?

[Zimmy]

I voted no. Although it is annoying when your grenade gets stuck inside someone's body, I don't think it decreases the quality of the game at all. The key term here is, it's avoidable. Be aware of the fact that your grenades can get stuck and it's easy enough to through the nade through an opening in your team or over their heads.

As far as knifing goes, I would say it's actually easier to get knife kills because you can walk through them and spin around and end up stabbing their back which is an instant kill rather than walking up, getting stuck and have to right-click them twice while they have an easier time shooting you.

Also, keep in mind, our servers are large, and I've seen them full enough to where two people can spawn in the same spawn point because all of the other spawn points are taken, without no block, these two people would be stuck the entire round until one or both died.

you guys must never knife and suck a gettign grenade kills. its the only way you wuldn't vote yes.

For this, explain to me why I can play on office and get a positive score or close to even score by only using a knife. It is not impossible, and we have listened to reason, but I highly doubt it will change. There will always be people who like regular gameplay, and there will always be people who like no-block. Here at eGO, we've decided on no-block and I think it would take a lot to change that.

Happy knifing,
-Zimmy

 

[shan^K]

No block is better in a 20v20 server because it can get hectic with block. People will be blocking each other like crazy, instead of grenades getting stuck they will bounce off your team mates and hit you instead, especially if you throw a nade and your team mate randomly jumps in front of it. It is actually a really bad idea to have block on with that many people in a server.

 

[MoSTaR #GH]

Yes, getting grenade stuck is pretty annoying, but it is usually up to the player. If you have much experience on the server, you know how to maneuver around and avoid getting your nades stuck. Also, if someone runs through you while trying to knife them, just turn 180 degrees and knife them in the back, with a one hit kill. Taking this off would in my opinion cause much more problems than solve.

For example in dust2 when everyone rushes a place, I like to go without getting blocked in B tuns or at long a doors, because some people stop and they would just block everyone and cause people to get naded to death easily.

 

[spark]

For this, explain to me why I can play on office and get a positive score or close to even score by only using a knife. It is not impossible, and we have listened to reason, but I highly doubt it will change.

Happy knifing,
-Zimmy

Prove this to me.

Anyways, no-block should stay on, just try to avoid throwing a nade while next to a teammate. It isn't hard to time a knife stab correctly to be able to hit them, you probably just miss and blame the no-block on your miss.

In my opinion, to solve the nade troubles it should just be made so you are able to throw grenades through your teammates although it can be a little weird seeing a grenade fly through an opponent to yourself.

 

[Zacharias]

Make it have a lower player count, then think about turning noblock off. It'd just get everyone clumped up and blocked in the tunnels right now.

 

[S!ck]

hmm, I found your complaint interesting... then I hoped onto the server, was able to run through my teammate an kill 3 people.. Next round someone stuck me with a flash so I stood there spraying, my vision came back and I killed a couple more people. Left the server and returned to this forum to state: WORKING AS INTENDED!

 

[iOprah]

This poll is very biased, you're saying "Yes, I want the good thing to happen" and "No, I am only going to list negative things here." It's quite obvious what your choice is, but no one in leadership is going to take this poll seriously because 1 it's in the general forums and not the drop box, and 2 because it's influenced. If I learned anything in my Senior year in high school, it was in AP Statistics and it was that you can make statistics and numbers show ANYTHING you want. Oh and btw it's no block.

Put it this way, since it's on now you will only see the faults in no block, and cry that you want it off. Then it turns off and then you cry when people block doors or flashes bounce back and hit you. You can't please everyone, and for the good of the server and to make it a better playing environment no block will stay on. This is the same exact thing as everything else in this CSS forum. For Example:

Person: I want Gun Game why don't we have gun game?
Admin: Because we had one and no one went on it.
Person: I bet if you do it now it will always be full!!
Admin: Ok we'll do it.

(First week)
Person: See I told you it would be full
Admin:sure....

(2 weeks later)

Admin: We need people to fill gun game
Person:..........

(3 weeks later)

Admin: Gun Game server is shut down due to lack of interest.

(2 Months later)

Person: Why don't we have gun game?

Repeat.


This is the same thing, we have no block on people want it off, we turn it off people want it on. It's not a big issue just get over it and play around it. And don't cry the realistic story, if CS:S is anything it's not realistic.

/rant

-Oprah

 

[Zimmy]

Prove this to me.

I don't have to prove anything, you can ask anyone who plays office with me, I'm not saying I can always do it, but what I'm saying is it's not impossible. Just earlier today I got three knife kills in a row in front stairs. Just sayin'.

 

[Kek15]

This poll is very biased, you're saying "Yes, I want the good thing to happen" and "No, I am only going to list negative things here." It's quite obvious what your choice is, but no one in leadership is going to take this poll seriously because 1 it's in the general forums and not the drop box, and 2 because it's influenced. If I learned anything in my Senior year in high school, it was in AP Statistics and it was that you can make statistics and numbers show ANYTHING you want. Oh and btw it's no block.

Put it this way, since it's on now you will only see the faults in no block, and cry that you want it off. Then it turns off and then you cry when people block doors or flashes bounce back and hit you. You can't please everyone, and for the good of the server and to make it a better playing environment no block will stay on. This is the same exact thing as everything else in this CSS forum. For Example:

Person: I want Gun Game why don't we have gun game?
Admin: Because we had one and no one went on it.
Person: I bet if you do it now it will always be full!!
Admin: Ok we'll do it.

(First week)
Person: See I told you it would be full
Admin:sure....

(2 weeks later)

Admin: We need people to fill gun game
Person:..........

(3 weeks later)

Admin: Gun Game server is shut down due to lack of interest.

(2 Months later)

Person: Why don't we have gun game?

Repeat.


This is the same thing, we have no block on people want it off, we turn it off people want it on. It's not a big issue just get over it and play around it. And don't cry the realistic story, if CS:S is anything it's not realistic.

/rant

-Oprah

/thread

 

[Officer-Pie]

I am actually pretty used to it. But it still takes away from the CSS experience. Basically, it takes away from grenading (at least once per round for someone) and it REALLY REALLY ruins knifing. I corner so many people who otherwise would be dead. But they have such an easy escape route THROUGH me, that knifing is essentially ruined.

I still knife and nade. But if ever another 24/7 server pops up that doesn't have no-clip enabled to ruin my knifing/nading...I'm going there. Sorry.

So my aim is to keep people on edge's server, since it's provided me with so much fun. But I, and presumably many others, would leave edge's server if another server came along with 24/7 dust and predictable grenades/knife physics ... like the game designers intended.

Soon CS:Global Offensive will be released an this will be of no consequence. But I guarantee it's in Edge's best interests to optimize their servers and allow for a full gaming experience.

No-clip mode may enable you to squeeze more people into a map...but the good players, who have been here for years, will leave if presented with a "full-service" server that doesn't sacrifice quality for quantity.

That's basically what this poll is about. Increase QUALITY (YES) or leave it as it is (NO)...

You vote as you like. I'm just stating the obvious facts.

Thanks guys.

We've had no block on for... Closer to 4 years. I am having serious doubts we're ever going to change it on everyone for a few reasons; mainly: greifing. I'd rather be stuck in a grenade for 5-10 seconds than not able to go to long A or B. That's my answer in short