Why Gamers Are a Great Fit at the Gym

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Why gamers are a great fit at the gym
By Jacque Wilson, CNN
updated 7:36 AM EST, Fri October 14, 2011

(CNN) -- They've been trained to focus for weeks at a time on a single goal. They know how to clearly identify obstacles and form step-by-step plans to overcome them.

They're obsessed with improving specific skills but judge success only by overall progress made in the world they've decided to conquer -- as realistic or fantastical as it may be.

It's precisely these traits that make video-gamers great bodybuilders.

Take a moment to laugh, if you must. Now hear us out.

Brian Wang and Dick Talens were the stereotypical video-gamers in high school. One was scrawny, the other fat. They grew up playing marathon sessions of "EverQuest," "Counter-Strike" and "World of Warcraft."

"I literally would wake up and play all day, eating intermittently," Talens said. "OK, when I say intermittently, I mean eating a lot."
Dick Talens weighed 230 pounds in high school before becoming a body builder.

But by the time the men met at the University of Pennsylvania in 2004, they had traded an obsession with video gaming for an obsession with weight-lifting. As they shared stories at the gym, they realized their healthy transformation had been easier for them than for most.

Why? Because they were -- and would always be -- gamers.

"People don't realize that video games are an expression of personality," Talens said. "There's certain qualities that people have. They're obsessed with improving the stat sheets, getting to the next level; they pay a lot of attention to detail. Guys who play WoW ... are very intense about whatever they do. They can turn that addiction and all its characteristics into fitness."

It's a theory they're taking to the bank. Talens and Wang are the co-founders of Fitocracy, a website that's turning gaming geeks into fitness geeks. The site has 70,000 users in its beta version and hopes to open to the 60,000 on a waiting list in the next couple months.

Fitocracy members can "level up" by earning points for their workouts. New levels unlock special challenges or "quests" that are designed to push users out of their comfort zones. For example, a runner might have to do yoga, or a bodybuilder might have to tackle a 5K.

Still, one has to wonder: What would make a virtual warrior trade in his sword and shield for a pair of dumbbells? The same thing that got him interested in playing video games in the first place, Dr. Scott Rigby says.

Rigby and Dr. Richard Ryan are co-authors of the book "Glued to Games: How Video Games Draw Us In and Hold Us Spellbound." As experts on human motivation, they have identified basic psychological needs -- similar to physical needs like food, water and sleep -- that video games satisfy.

First, Ryan says, is the need to feel competent. In real life, you get the chance to "level up" only once every couple years: like when you earn a promotion at work or get married. In games, you always know what you have to do to get to the next level.

"In video games, you're constantly getting information about your achievements and (learning) how to do things better," Ryan says. "There's an opportunity to develop a mastery that's very much a key motivator."

That translates well to fitness, where tracking your accomplishments enables you to progress quicker. You know you've improved when you run an extra mile or dead lift another 50 pounds.
Guys who play WoW ... are very intense about whatever they do. They can turn that addiction and all its characteristics into fitness.
Fitocracy co-founder Dick Talens

A second motivator in video games is the feeling of freedom and autonomy, Rigby says. People like to know they have control over their future. In video games, you can choose your path, the skills you want to improve, even your outfit. Making the same choices in your fitness regimen helps you feel empowered.

"Games make the goals really clear," Rigby said. "You have to run from point A to point B, deliver a message, kill this bad guy. You have a very clear sense of 'If I just do these steps, I will succeed.' And let's call them quests because it sounds heroic. And who doesn't want to feel like a hero?"

Fitocracy user Michael Perry says that what's most important to him is the community on the website, which resembles that of his favorite online game, "World of Warcraft." In any massively multiplayer online role-playing game, you work with other players to conquer enemies. Your team expects you to show up and do what needs to be done. He gets the same sense of accountability from the members on Fitocracy.

"When I was playing WoW all the time, I had to make sure everything I was doing was right. I researched it down to the T. I made sure I was hitting spells right at the right time. I wouldn't miss a raid," Perry said. "I think that translates really well to exercise and bodybuilding because you have to have that level of knowledge, (and) you have to have that commitment."

Rigby says the community around online games, or fitness, satisfies one of the last psychological needs: relationships.

"There's a social component to it. ... You're relying on each other. You really need the other person to watch your back and vice versa," he said. "(Games) build in a sense of 'I matter to others; others matter to me.' "
Michael Perry said he was heavy all of his life before he started weight-lifting.

Of course, motivation isn't restricted to video gamers. Everyone has these basic intrinsic psychological needs and can apply them to fitness. Gamers just have an easier time learning the language.

"What video game players have is a certain understanding for how these sort of fitness structures are built: goal-setting, progression, etc." Rigby said. "In other words, it's a world that they know."

Take Vin Diesel, one of the buffest men in Hollywood. Diesel used to play "D&D" on his days off as a bouncer in one of New York's nightclubs.

He contributed the foreword for the book "30 Years of Adventure: A Celebration of Dungeons & Dragons," writing, "We were all drawn to the game because it allowed us to become these characters, vastly different in appearance and in actions, but what kept us hooked was the search for the character that represented our higher self."

A quest -- to look different, to act stronger, to be better. Sound familiar?

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everyone has a potential.. its matter of fact if u can make yourself go to the gym and stick with it. And im sure Diesel did not spend his whole day playing D&D..

In my opinion, it would be pretty hard to convince gamers to go socialize irl, cuz there is a reason why they choose online community, cuz most of them either have low self esteem or they have issues with their looks... imho..
 
> Body Building

Building yourself up to look like a freak is unhealthy, when I exercise I find a good balance between buff and average so its not a burden to maintain. A lot of people from weights club in my senior year (last year) have started to become fat because they can't keep up the exercise regiment buy continue the eating regiment.
 
I think its a great article because I will admit that im just like them, only I never played WoW. I played Guild Wars on end, everyday. Then I started to become more mature & figured that its time to stop being lazy & get myself in shape. I used to live up in Dallas/Ft Worth area & was in martial arts up there (the only form of real exercise that I really got). Then I moved down here to San Antonio to get myself serious about getting in shape & getting ready for the military. Its been almost a year since I done moved down here & ive lost around 40 lbs (went from almost 200 lbs down to 160). Yes, I do believe that gamers would do great in a gym, but its a matter of personal determination & putting forth the effort to get to that goal that you want to achieve with your body that makes the difference.

Overall, I think this program is a great idea & believe that more gamers need to look into it, but only if they are really serious about their health.

Oh, and Snipeye, you either accidently copied the whole article or CNN made a mistake.

Guys who play WoW ... are very intense about whatever they do. They can turn that addiction and all its characteristics into fitness.
Fitocracy co-founder Dick Talens
^the above statment was mentioned twice. i highly doubt anyone caught it, or if they even cared bout it.
 
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I used to be "Obese". Couldn't run to save my life. I've since then lost 65lbs and am running <10min miles.

Anything is possible if you put your mind to it. I think this site is a great idea!
 
Well, its not a site for training. It's a news article about gamers becoming weight lifters, and how gamers can succeed and become fit, and how their gaming habits can translate into success off the video games.
 
In my opinion, it would be pretty hard to convince gamers to go socialize irl, cuz there is a reason why they choose online community, cuz most of them either have low self esteem or they have issues with their looks... imho..


Really? That's your opinion? Did you even read what you wrote? Did you think about what you wrote? That's an insult to everyone in this community. I come to an online gaming community to avoid the random @sshats and hacking @ssclowns found on most servers. Playing online games with the same people everyday is more fun then strangers all the time, more entertaining and makes for better conversation. To imply it is because of low self esteem or issues with looks is just stupid.
 
In my opinion, it would be pretty hard to convince gamers to go socialize irl, cuz there is a reason why they choose online community, cuz most of them either have low self esteem or they have issues with their looks... imho..

I'd have to say that's pretty ignorant.

Gaming is a hobby. It's an interest. A portion of the population of gamers probably falls in that category, but it's pretty silly to classify all gamers as having low self-esteem and being unable to socialize. That's a stereotype that's perpetuated quite frequently and is pretty far from the truth. Looking around at eGO's members, you'll see a wide variety...bodybuilders, athletes, outgoing people and yes....some overweight people.

I don't have issues interacting in real life...but it's pretty enjoyable to get to meet people from all around the world and do common activities (game) with them. I'm sure if you looked at your reasons for gaming and those of your friends you'd see that a lot of different things bring people to enjoy online gaming communities.



All of that aside, this idea of Fitocracy is pretty neat. I really didn't think of the way gaming and working out can benefit one another...but in a strange sort of way it makes a lot of sense. Cool find Snipeye!
 
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Gamer302: *Casts weight lift* against fat

Super effective!

Fat: *dies*

Gains muscle!
 
im one of those epople that is universally hated by overweight people

i can eat ANYTHING i want and not gain a pound

this is without exercise too

in the last 5 years my weight has never gone more than 5 pounds up or down from 140
 
Oh, and Snipeye, you either accidently copied the whole article or CNN made a mistake.

I copied the whole article. Which is why I provided a link at the bottom in case you want to see the original article. This is for your reading pleasure (do this quite often for any tech-related news that I think would be interesting for you all to read). Check the Tech Talk forum and you'll see.
 
I'll just throw this little tidbit in. I love food. :) When I decided to start getting in shape, I picked a plan where I could still eat just as much, except different kind of things, and then working out with the food. Stuf like lean, grilled chicken instead of fatty fried chicken. Turkey burgers instead of regular hamburgers. Specialty foods with no sodium. Sodium was my key, and trying to limit my intake of it went a long way. It's very hard, because it's in literally EVERYTHING. Because of the nature of the food, coupled with the workout, my body burned through it faster and converted it into muscle. That's not to say that I couldn't have some french fries and burgers from time to time. The key is limiting just how often you eat those kinds of things.

I'll admit, recently I haven't been able to get into the gym as much as I would like. But this article has kind of inspired me. I'm going to try looking at going to the gym with the same part of my brain that kicks in when playing games. Determination, drive, etc.
 
Well im a decent weight guy i guess 6'0 201weight if your fat eat less problem solved

or move more...either works and youd lose weight over time....if u eat the same amount of food/calories and get more excersise you will lose weight and if you cut back on food/calroies and keep the same level of activity you will also lose weight
 
when i said "gamers" i meant ppl like that, i should have specified that prob...
and it is my honest opinion, one of my best friends is that type of "gamer" and in my personal experience it was REALLY hard to make him go out and socialize. he,as people would say, "had no life" and i cant really argue with them.. its just once some people like him find an online community they lose interest in going out and socializing with people other than online sources...
and again im speaking from my personal experience
 
Thnkx for clearing that up, greatly appreciated. I meant no offence by my post, yours just came off as insulting at first.
 
I work out my mind every day and night. I can do 100,000 mental push-ups and 100,000 mental sit-ups every morning before starting my day.


cereal though, I've started working out every few days a week. My daughter is about to go off to college, and I need to get back into a decent enough shape since I'm going to get back out in the dating world. ugh, 35-45 year old women are nuts mostly, I'm sure I'll find someone nuttier than me, lol.
 
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