upcoming patch: IRNV, flash, VOIP, squad, horn

ShawnJ said:
The only assault weapons worth using imo are: M416, F2k, KH2002, and AEK. I've used 'em all but those above are where the easy/quick/fun kills are at.
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How do you feel about the M16A3 or A4? Personally I've found it to be my favorite. It's a bit of a pity that the Suppressor is glitched with it and your location still gets revealed on minimap. But I just ended up swapping it for a heavy barrel and I love it.

There is something that bothers me about both the F22000 and the KH2002. They both have quite long reload times. While this may not be such a large problem for people with more passive / safe playstyles. I try to dive into the heart of a team and cause chaos. Thus a fast reload time is extremely helpful and the F2000/KH2002 are slow in that respect.
KH2002 - Reload Time 3.2 - 3.7 Seconds
F2000 - Reload Time 3 - 3.5 Seconds
M416 - Reload Time 2 - 2.5 Seconds
M16A3 - Reload Time 1.8 - 2.2 Seconds

From the fastest M16A3 reload to the slowest KH2002 reload that's almost a 2 second gap. That's quite a long time when you're in a race to reload with another soldier and it's winner take all. You can't always count on your sidearm to be there.

Might not be the biggest difference for most people but it's something that bothers me immensely.
 
M16A3 is decent imo. I think it shoots faster and has minimum recoil but if I'm to use Mxxxx gun I prefer M416.

KH2002 is good if you're getting pinned down. A quick burst or two can give you a headshot on snipers and such. Also in close combat you can drop enemies quick double tap burst fire. But yes KH2002 is not made for close combat. foregrip with KH2002 is suggested since it possibly has the largest horizontal recoil of all assault rifles. when i first shot it, it felt like the recoil made the gun move in circle.

F2k is just too good in close combat. Sure the reload is higher but everything else makes up for it. It is probably the best run and gun assault rifle...very very accurate. I prefer AEK over F2k though...it feels better.
 
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ShawnJ said:
M16A3 is decent imo. I think it shoots faster and has minimum recoil but if I'm to use Mxxxx gun I prefer M416.

KH2002 is good if you're getting pinned down. A quick burst or two can give you a headshot on snipers and such. Also in close combat you can drop enemies quick double tap burst fire. But yes KH2002 is not made for close combat. foregrip with KH2002 is suggested since it possibly has the largest horizontal recoil of all assault rifles. when i first shot it, it felt like the recoil made the gun move in circle.

F2k is just too good in close combat. Sure the reload is higher but everything else makes up for it. It is probably the best run and gun assault rifle...very very accurate. I prefer AEK over F2k though...it feels better.
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ehhhh to be honest, the M416 isn't all that good. People only use it because it was in bc2. Every thing that it does good, other guns do much better. The M16A3 is better overall.

Also the best run and gun weapon is the ak-74m, much more reliable than the F2k :)
 
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M16 is pretty sweet, i like to put a rifle scope on it for long ranges (since an94 sux) and a laser for close range hip fire...works out most of the time. I like the burst fire model tho, not sure if its the 3 or 4
 
i dont get why everyone likes the aek and f2000 the best.

the m416 and m16a3 are way more reliable.
better ammo conservation
better reload
and not much compensation in the other categories

the ak-74 is ok but if fires really slow.

then again im the guy who thinks the non starter support weapons are crap...
 
Saltychipmunk said:
i dont get why everyone likes the aek and f2000 the best.

the m416 and m16a3 are way more reliable.
better ammo conservation
better reload
and not much compensation in the other categories

the ak-74 is ok but if fires really slow.

then again im the guy who thinks the non starter support weapons are crap...
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M249 my favorite support gun so far. Thing is deadly :)
 
IDigitalDeadI said:
Also the best run and gun weapon is the ak-74m, much more reliable than the F2k :)
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Well that's your opinion. I personally am not even a fan of 74.

what I was trying to imply was that F2k is way too accurate in close combat run and gun situations.


Saltychipmunk said:
i dont get why everyone likes the aek and f2000 the best.

the m416 and m16a3 are way more reliable.
better ammo conservation
better reload
and not much compensation in the other categories

then again im the guy who thinks the non starter support weapons are crap...
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because aek and f2k are super easy to use at close/mid range...and long range shoot outs is still possible.
 
Cookiiiiiiiiiiie said:
M249 my favorite support gun so far. Thing is deadly :)
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Put a heat scope on it on Metro and you're bawss.

ShawnJ said:
Well that's your opinion. I personally am not even a fan of 74.

what I was trying to imply was that F2k is way too accurate in close combat run and gun situations.

because aek and f2k are super easy to use at close/mid range...and long range shoot outs is still possible.
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Yes.

Saltychipmunk said:
i dont get why everyone likes the aek and f2000 the best.

the m416 and m16a3 are way more reliable.
better ammo conservation
better reload
and not much compensation in the other categories

the ak-74 is ok but if fires really slow.

then again im the guy who thinks the non starter support weapons are crap...
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F2000 = 10 bullets into enemy before other guns can put 1.
 
It seems the IRNV got nerfed in the PS3 Patch that went live this morning

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Picz26O0UVA[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MGlZLHonrY[/ame]
 
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Thanks for the vids Vert. Just as I thought they would make it completely useless, they should just take the nurfed equipment and weapons out of the game that way I don't have to worry about unlocking dogtags with useless paper weights.
 
Looks like the IRNV is working as it did pre-patch on only B2k Maps. I can't test this as I am at work but ya.....FAIL
 
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