Announcement: Server change (B2K)

[PBJ]

Can we please put all maps back onto HC rush... there are no populated servers with all maps an playing 4 is getting old. Dont really like the conq in there eather, we have 3 conq servers already.

Exactly my thoughts. Just dropbox'd it before I saw this post. xD

 

[Vertago]

Based on how well this server does and community feedback we will have a server changes discussion regarding maps and settings at a later time.

That being said...we plan to keep the servers as they currently are for another week (untill next Tuesday) then implement changes that need to be made. In my opinion, what we will probably end up doing is re-adding the non-B2K maps back on the HC Rush server with the B2K maps on rush (not Conquest Assault) mixed in. As for the Conquest HC, the same thing would probably happen where non-B2K maps are re-added (excluding Op Metro) with B2K maps (on Conquest) mixed in. As for the Air Maps server, Gulf of Omen and Wake Island have been added to the rotation as they are Air Maps also.

 

[ShawnJ]

i dont think making HC conquest into B2K HC conquest will fix its ranking problems, the problem lies with the fact that the majority of ppl dont seem to like to play HC as much as normal it could be because a lot of ppl that didnt play BC2 but played all the old BF games came in for a more true to BF style play, but w/e the reason i really dont like how our HC servers get all the normal rotation plays but our normal servers dont, and i really dont want to goto some random one.

I'm not a fan of HC. I did play BC2 but I prefer being able to spot, having full health, and not dying just because someone shot at me first. Most of all, not being able to 3D spot vehicles in HC servers annoys me to max.

 

[Krod Mandoon]

vert, when we do the server changes, make sure we actually look at what the people who play on the servers want, not just the minority in eGO, because b4 B2K and the air map changes and what not, our normal rush and conq servers were constantly full, and i know things are rough still with the B2K servers but the fact that we took away normal conquest which was probably our highest ranked server (idk exactly since i didnt look it up) just looking at how often it was at 64/64 players compared to HC conquest which i rarely saw 64/64 constantly.

Basically what i want to see happen is get normal rotation conquest, not normal mode air maps, i dont always like playing air maps on conquest, it gets old fast, since most ppl just like to camp jets and nothing else really happens. Not to mention only metro is staying reasonably full with HC conquest and rush everyone now and then spiking up towards semi full with air maps being completely dead, idk exactly why because Im usually tired after work but it seems changes need to be made that do not cater to the ppl in eGO that cry out for "MAKE ALL SERVERS HC BECAUSE HC IS WHERE ITS AT" because the majority of pubs on our servers seem to prefer normal mode and like to play on our normal server aside from metro 24/7 for obvious reason.

Ill be back later to edit this if i see i need to because im in a hurry to get back to work from lunch break

Edit: Im too lazy to correct most of my dictation errors.

 

[Kerak]

vert, when we do the server changes, make sure we actually look at what the people who play on the servers want, not just the minority in eGO, because b4 B2K and the air map changes and what not, our normal rush and conq servers were constantly full, and i know things are rough still with the B2K servers but the fact that we took away normal conquest which was probably our highest ranked server (idk exactly since i didnt look it up) just looking at how often it was at 64/64 players compared to HC conquest which i rarely saw 64/64 constantly.

Basically what i want to see happen is get normal rotation conquest, not normal mode air maps, i dont always like playing air maps on conquest, it gets old fast, since most ppl just like to camp jets and nothing else really happens. Not to mention half our servers have been staying full lately, idk exactly why because Im usually tired after work but it seems changes need to be made that do not cater to the ppl in eGO that cry out for "MAKE ALL SERVERS HC BECAUSE HC IS WHERE ITS AT" because the majority of pubs on our servers seem to prefer normal mode and like to play on our normal server aside from metro 24/7 for obvious reason.

Ill be back later to edit this if i see i need to because im in a hurry to get back to work from lunch break

HERE HERE ^

Also, I think the server changes need something as well. More tickets-600, Better rotations, Instant respawn vehicles / fast respawn players, etc. We need to put our servers back on the rankings by giving members and non-members alike what they need and want.

Also, and divisional meeting would be superb :thumbup:. Take in everyone's thoughts and such. I mean we need to know whats going on and the future of the server changes and such. So in the end we are both in SYNC with each other.

 

[Ranchito]

vert, when we do the server changes, make sure we actually look at what the people who play on the servers want, not just the minority in eGO, because b4 B2K and the air map changes and what not, our normal rush and conq servers were constantly full, and i know things are rough still with the B2K servers but the fact that we took away normal conquest which was probably our highest ranked server (idk exactly since i didnt look it up) just looking at how often it was at 64/64 players compared to HC conquest which i rarely saw 64/64 constantly.

Basically what i want to see happen is get normal rotation conquest, not normal mode air maps, i dont always like playing air maps on conquest, it gets old fast, since most ppl just like to camp jets and nothing else really happens. Not to mention only metro is staying reasonably full with HC conquest and rush everyone now and then spiking up towards semi full with air maps being completely dead, idk exactly why because Im usually tired after work but it seems changes need to be made that do not cater to the ppl in eGO that cry out for "MAKE ALL SERVERS HC BECAUSE HC IS WHERE ITS AT" because the majority of pubs on our servers seem to prefer normal mode and like to play on our normal server aside from metro 24/7 for obvious reason.

Ill be back later to edit this if i see i need to because im in a hurry to get back to work from lunch break

Edit: Im too lazy to correct most of my dictation errors.

hmmm seems to me that at the meeting the majority of members wanted hc. HC rush pre b2k was constantly full but at the same time HC conq fell short because most of the players that kept HC conq full wanted to play HC, but if we wanted to play on eGO servers we only had one choice. I perfer to play rush and I only play HC except this tournament and occasional metro madness. Nothing irritates me more than magical orange triangles giving you away threw smoke and behind cover.

Everytime I have joined our empty rush mix with one or 2 others the server fills fast but pubbers don't want to start up servers and I dont blame them.

My main point is that "the minority of eGO play rush" statement isn't correct. If anything, from what ive seen opinions sway alittle more for HC than normal mode.

I didnt mean to offend if I did, but I do believe my opinion is valid since I play BF3 way more than anyone should.

 

[Kerak]

Based on how well this server does and community feedback we will have a server changes discussion regarding maps and settings at a later time. That being said...we plan to keep the servers as they currently are for another week (untill next Tuesday) then implement changes that need to be made. In my opinion, what we will probably end up doing is re-adding the non-B2K maps back on the HC Rush server with the B2K maps on rush (not Conquest Assault) mixed in. As for the Conquest HC, the same thing would probably happen where non-B2K maps are re-added (excluding Op Metro) with B2K maps (on Conquest) mixed in. As for the Air Maps server, Gulf of Omen and Wake Island have been added to the rotation as they are Air Maps also.

Before this thread goes to other places we don't want, just go by what this guy said and we'll do fine.

Divisional Meeting FTW soon I hope

 

[bodayga]

whenever im on ventrilo, and playing bf3. the majority has always been hardcore players, whenever i have participated in populating any server hc or non hc . they where always majority hardcore players.

i believe we should have at least one non hardcore server. but to say the majority of ego bf3 players or non hardcore is just insane . i also believe if ego doesnt switch server providers it will not make a difference because no one will join anyway, with all the crashes. u always get what u pay for, im guessing we are getting some sort of deal for these servers.

 

[PBJ]

Before this thread goes to other places we don't want, just go by what this guy said and we'll do fine.

Divisional Meeting FTW soon I hope

Thank you Kerak. I get tired of this constant going back and forth. Divisional meeting sounds like the way to go.

 

[Krod Mandoon]

whenever im on ventrilo, and playing bf3. the majority has always been hardcore players, whenever i have participated in populating any server hc or non hc . they where always majority hardcore players.

i believe we should have at least one non hardcore server. but to say the majority of ego bf3 players or non hardcore is just insane . i also believe if ego doesnt switch server providers it will not make a difference because no one will join anyway, with all the crashes. u always get what u pay for, in guessing we are getting some sort of deal for these servers.

hmmm seems to me that at the meeting the majority of members wanted hc. HC rush pre b2k was constantly full but at the same time HC conq fell short because most of the players that kept HC conq full wanted to play HC, but if we wanted to play on eGO servers we only had one choice. I perfer to play rush and I only play HC except this tournament and occasional metro madness. Nothing irritates me more than magical orange triangles giving you away threw smoke and behind cover.

Everytime I have joined our empty rush mix with one or 2 others the server fills fast but pubbers don't want to start up servers and I dont blame them.

My main point is that "the minority of eGO play rush" statement isn't correct. If anything, from what ive seen opinions sway alittle more for HC than normal mode.

I didnt mean to offend if I did, but I do believe my opinion is valid since I play BF3 way more than anyone should.

Well it seems yall completely misread what I said in 2 different ways and completely skipped certain parts. Firstly I never said the minority of 'eGO' players like HC, no clue where you got that idea, and I never said anything
close to rush vs conquest numbers in eGO.

What you completely skipped over and misread is that I said that eGO players make up the minority ON OUR SERVERS COMPARED TO THE PUBS (bolded and capped for emphasize so you dont skip over it this time). Both of you are going off the assumption that 10 eGO members on a 64 player server is the majority on there and thusly that server configs should be based off the minority which is completely bonkers. Ill repeat again for you my point, server configs should not be based off a minority opinion and instead on pub(majority) opinion and what keeps servers full like how it was in BC2 In BC2 when a server config that was being asked for by eGO members was granted and could not stay full i.e. 24/7 phu bai, it was taken away and eventually replaced by a rotation vietnam and then back to vanilla BC2 rotation. I know BF3 is still fairly new and we have a ton of new members that don't know how things are usually handled with servers, but Ill leave with this sentiment.

TL;DR If you want a server config, it is your duty to fill that server and keep it filled. So if you want HC only rotations then you have to keep them full, and if our normal mode servers are staying full more often than the HC servers or vice versa then a change is needed and leadership afaik is currently debating certain changes.

P.S. something I have noticed recently is a lot of longer time eGO members going to non eGO servers to play because servers are not staying full and we need to get a bunch of ppl together and get these empty servers filled, it gets boring to get on BF3 to see only metro full, air maps dead, HC rush and conquest practically dead.

 

[RAINBoWToAST]

Well it seems yall completely misread what I said in 2 different ways and completely skipped certain parts. Firstly I never said the minority of 'eGO' players like HC, no clue where you got that idea, and I never said anything
close to rush vs conquest numbers in eGO.

What you completely skipped over and misread is that I said that eGO players make up the minority ON OUR SERVERS COMPARED TO THE PUBS (bolded and capped for emphasize so you dont skip over it this time). Both of you are going off the assumption that 10 eGO members on a 64 player server is the majority on there and thusly that server configs should be based off the minority which is completely bonkers. Ill repeat again for you my point, server configs should not be based off a minority opinion and instead on pub(majority) opinion and what keeps servers full like how it was in BC2 In BC2 when a server config that was being asked for by eGO members was granted and could not stay full i.e. 24/7 phu bai, it was taken away and eventually replaced by a rotation vietnam and then back to vanilla BC2 rotation. I know BF3 is still fairly new and we have a ton of new members that don't know how things are usually handled with servers, but Ill leave with this sentiment.

TL;DR If you want a server config, it is your duty to fill that server and keep it filled. So if you want HC only rotations then you have to keep them full, and if our normal mode servers are staying full more often than the HC servers or vice versa then a change is needed and leadership afaik is currently debating certain changes.

P.S. something I have noticed recently is a lot of longer time eGO members going to non eGO servers to play because servers are not staying full and we need to get a bunch of ppl together and get these empty servers filled, it gets boring to get on BF3 to see only metro full, air maps dead, HC rush and conquest practically dead.

Ranchito was replying to Krod. And the reason the HC conquest server is never full is because they keep crashing (this requires a patch from DICE). It's hard to keep them full when people can barely play a round without having the server crash.

 

[Krod Mandoon]

Ranchito was replying to Krod. And the reason the HC conquest server is never full is because they keep crashing (this requires a patch from DICE). It's hard to keep them full when people can barely play a round without having the server crash.

i know he was replying to me, thats why i replied back about misreading my post. HC conquest was suffering before it even was moved to B2K is my point though, vert even acknowledged that when he made it B2K

 

[LilShortstuf]

leadership afaik is currently debating certain changes.

What does this even mean? :confused1:

But yes we are going to be talking about it soon. We hear the outcry, we see the empty servers, we notice the crashes, and we are going to do our best to fix what we can. Now go smoke a cigarette or take a drink or take a bathroom break (poops are very relaxing and it's where I get most of my reading done ) and calm down. I'm all for the back and forth I just don't want you guy to really start going at it and do something you regret over HC vs. Normal and your thoughts on it.

 

[Krod Mandoon]

afaik means 'as far as i know'

 

[Ranchito]

pfffffff pubs. ego or nothing

 

[RAINBoWToAST]

i know he was replying to me, thats why i replied back about misreading my post. HC conquest was suffering before it even was moved to B2K is my point though, vert even acknowledged that when he made it B2K

Lol sorry for some reason I thought it was Kerrak responding. Please disregard my post