Manmelter vs. Flare Gun

[The_Sandvich_Soldier]

Flare gun- slower but crits on flaming enemies

Manmelter- faster and can extinguish to give crits but no random crits and no crits on flaming enemies

What do you think?

 

[Ledzo]

Manmelter = Spam.

 

[Kazoo]

I have yet to own a Manmelter, so I have no idea.

However, I tend to avoid the space weapons. Doesn't have that same TF2 feeling. So I'd stick with the Flare Gun even if I had the Manmelter, most likely.

 

[Goz]

Flare Gun requires exceptional aim or you're screwed. You only get 1 shot, and it has a slow reload.

Manmelter can stack up a lot (and I stress a lot) of free crits, but it relies on your teammates being lit on fire quite a bit by enemy pyros. Of course this means that it's useless when there are no enemy pyros, but your medics should be doing the job of extinguishing anyway since it'll build their uber.

Paired up against each other, I think the Manmelter would have the better advantage due to faster fire rate, and free crits whenever as long as you are extinguishing people.

In comparison together, I think Flare Gun serves a more useful purpose. I can see how the Manmelter would be more useful than it, but more often than not, you're gonna be flaming people, not extinguising them as a pyro.

 

[The_Sandvich_Soldier]

GozGallz I agree with you. However the manmelter actually reloads 20% slower than the flare gun. Also i love the flare gun because unlike the manmelter it crits the enemy if they are alight.
Lucky for me i have a good aim!

 

[The_Sandvich_Soldier]

Kazoo your'e 100% right.
The grodbort weapons just feel plain wrong to me as well.

 

[ShawnJ]

A good pyro usually uses default or degreaser. With both of these primary flare gun outclasses manmelter by far.

Flaregun is a beast when taking down heavy (or at least annoying the hell out of them). Heavies are so slow that aiming them isn't much of a problem even at a ranged distance. The crits help a lot.

You can also use flaregun in close/mid combat. Burn - airblast - flaregun always works. Airblast will lead your enemy in a particular direction and you can flare them up for an easy 90 crit damage.

Two hits usually ends a light class.

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Manmelter relies on your team being bad, or enemy pyro being really good, or enemy pyro being a sucide n00b, or something else.

 

[The_Sandvich_Soldier]

You're right ShawnJ. I use the degreaser/flare gun/axtinguisher combo myself purely because its so easy to get kills quickly. At close range i switch to my axe or at mid-long range i switch to the flare gun. Manmelter for me is just useless.

 

[Dutchoper72]

I like the detonator better

 

[Wubstep]

i think that if you use a degreser and manmelter combo, is very good, you can use the fast wepon switch of the degreser, and swap to the manmelter, witch is already a fast wepon, and fire of a shot quickly. The manmelter may have a long reload (i think its reload, more like cool down) but it has unlimated amo, and can put out team mates, so you can still have full flamethrower amo, and put out your teammates. thats my 2 cents

 

[Wubstep]

Flare Gun requires exceptional aim or you're screwed. You only get 1 shot, and it has a slow reload.

if you switch wepons, it does an instant reload, so the degreser comes in handy there

 

[virus.rpm]

I really think the manmelter is a great pair with the backburner. It gives you that extinguishing utility without ending your ammo. Personally though, degreaser/flare/axtinguisher for life

 

[WyrmMage]

Shotgun. Because honestly, It lets me kill meep when we are pyro vs pyro . Nah, shotgun is good because it gives you the ability to deal damage at medium range and it can out dps the flare gun when against an enemy pyro in medium range combat. The only downside being the shotgun cant get pesky snipers from long range like the flare gun can. I go stock flamethrower(Actually its strange festive flamethrower, but still functions the same) and strange shotgun, with either strange powerjack or third degree depending on my mood. Honestly I prefer to use shotgun more often in close combat situations against an enemy pyro because I might get backblasted. Also Goz, medics cant extenguish people, they just heal them till the afterburn wears off. I would rather not be on fire even if I had a medic healing me, because flaregun or axtenguisher would be deadly, and it takes like 6-7 seconds or more before the fire goes out. Thats why I always put out team mates whether it be with flamethrower or the manmelter when I had it at one time. Dont think I still do though. Free crits from manmelter and the ability to put out teammates really goes well with either backburner or phlog, although I still think phlog is real nooby weapon :/

 

[Shiznoe]

Flare gun obviously

 

[Mr. Lemming]

I prefer the DG/MM combo simply because I prefer to play a defensive pyro, and the quick weapon switch means I can hit that solly from long range and deflect his rocket right back at him, all the while putting friendlies out who are on fire with the MM to conserve ammo for said airblasts.

 

[Goz]

Shotgun. Because honestly, It lets me kill meep when we are pyro vs pyro . Nah, shotgun is good because it gives you the ability to deal damage at medium range and it can out dps the flare gun when against an enemy pyro in medium range combat. The only downside being the shotgun cant get pesky snipers from long range like the flare gun can. I go stock flamethrower(Actually its strange festive flamethrower, but still functions the same) and strange shotgun, with either strange powerjack or third degree depending on my mood. Honestly I prefer to use shotgun more often in close combat situations against an enemy pyro because I might get backblasted. Also Goz, medics cant extenguish people, they just heal them till the afterburn wears off. I would rather not be on fire even if I had a medic healing me, because flaregun or axtenguisher would be deadly, and it takes like 6-7 seconds or more before the fire goes out. Thats why I always put out team mates whether it be with flamethrower or the manmelter when I had it at one time. Dont think I still do though. Free crits from manmelter and the ability to put out teammates really goes well with either backburner or phlog, although I still think phlog is real nooby weapon :/

Wyrm. they extinguish people. They don't heal em till the afterburn wears off. Ever notice when they heal burning people, the afterburn goes off in like a second? Geez. All they gotta do is constantly heal you for a second.

And leave shotgun out of this, this is a Flare Gun vs Manmelter thread.

if you switch wepons, it does an instant reload, so the degreser comes in handy there

Contrary to popular belief, it does not. Don't even try it. It'll have recovery on it the second you switch back that's even longer than the Flare Gun's reload.

 

[Additional Pylons]

im surprised that Noble has not jumped in this thread and calld us all babus for playing pyro, but as for the question at hand, id say flare gun.

 

[virus.rpm]

Contrary to popular belief, it does not. Don't even try it. It'll have recovery on it the second you switch back that's even longer than the Flare Gun's reload.

It doesn't instantly reload, but it will reload while you don't have it equipped. ( at last the flare does, haven't tested the mm)

 

[Nik :D]

I use Shotgun, because both of those aren't up to par with Vanilla Pyro, but anyways.

Unless you're a hipster still using the original Backburner or the Pholgistonator, then you really shouldn't be using the Manmelter. It's a really good team player weapon, but unless you decided to roam with the Pyro, you should just avoid it for the Flare Gun.

Have I mentioned that I'm also really cute and we should get together sometime?