What do you guys think of the PATCH?

My aim is totally off now, will have to start from scratch now by removing the foregrip and trying to use the lame bipod, thanks DICE for ruining BF3, might as well play COD now.
 
meh, tried it after it, but still spawn and die half the time so i don't play this game anymore :/
 
Dice didn't ruin the game. They just made the game less Newbie friendly when it comes to shooting a gun.

I wonder what all the pre patch famas users are feeling right now.
 
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I'm actually getting re-accustomed after today. Heavy Barrel/Bipod is the way to go now.
 
ya..... I'll come back to BF when DICE wants to give us REAL battlefield maps, none of this CoD close quaters crap. Afk for the time being.
 
Has anyone tried the heat seekers on the jets lately? I don't know if it was the server I was on or the actual patch, but they seemed ineffective. I had stupidly quick lock speed, but once that missile made contact, it did nothing. I might as well have stuck my head out the cockpit and sneezed on the guy.
 
fore grip is a useless attachment now,
bipod is still worthless for anything but support / recon (seriously 30 bullets in a clip will never warrant a bipod .

the irnv is finally usable.

they made it physically impossible to have the accuracy of pre patch. all in all the best accuracy you can get is about 20% to a head hurting 45% worse.

the suppressor / fore grip combo is completely obliterated. -20% nerf on grip - 25% nerf on the suppressor, oh god it is brutal. useing a flash suppressor and no secondary attachment is better at cqb than the cqb attachments . LOL.
 
^^^ This guy knows what he's talking about! ^^^

Heavy Barrel > Suppressor

Bipod generally beats foregrip...foregrip isn't so bad combined with Heavy Barrel.

IRNV is amazing.
 
i can still use a suppressor and foregrip on my m416 at extreme CQB but once it gets to mid range targets, i cant do it anymore. When i use an AR i always need the jolly ol suppressor because that is my stealth kit. But a new combo that im starting to like is sg553 w/forgrip and heavybarrel on semi auto or burst fire.
I just can't use a bipod on AR or carbine, it just messes me up and doesn't feel right too me.
 
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dont bother with the foregrip.

it negates the buffs of your other attachments while retaining their downsides , all for a minor horizontal recoil reduction.

id suggest getting used to the bipod, even if you don't use it , plus it helps deal with the suppression effect somewhat.

also the buffs and nerfs on the items can be misleading.

just because a weapon has high accuracy does not mean it is a very accurate weapon.
take the g3 with any attachment.
if you take the heavy barrel, yeah your first two bullets hit, the rest wont because of the insane recoil.
if you take a silencer then your bullets mover so slow that you cant hit anything that is moving (g3 already has slow ass bullet velocity).

so you should NOT use accuracy attachments with the g3, you need recoil reduction, so in that case using a fore grip is actually a must (trust me accuracy on a g3 is not an issue)

but that is the issue , every other weapon has great recoil but terrible accuracy , so the for grip is really only needed on two guns.



as for the med kit changes. change was necessary but it was the wrong change. You see prepatch there was a massive balance issue between kit assults and m320 assults.

the abuse was that having an explosive and the ability to revive was easily exploitable. medkits simply weren't needed. dice tried to fix this by making the med kit more valuable.
This side stepped the real issue, that the grenade launcher attachments should really have always replaced the paddles , not the med kit.
 
while playing defensively, try a PKP with a bi-pod, its like a full auto sniper rifle
 
I don't really know what I think of it yet...

It almost feels more CoD-like now. Everything is almost too fluid (movements, aiming, accuracy, etc.). It also feels like every gun has insanely good accuracy, but terrible recoil (opposite of what Chipmunk said =P).

Things I love though:
1. Flash suppressor is helpful
2. Horns
3. Better map (both mini and full)
4. Updated Commo-rose
5. More Squads
 
A guy from DICE has already publicly said they made suppression too OP: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNptSCNwE_g"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNptSCNwE_g[/ame]

I seem to die a lot faster now, maybe it's just me. I agree with most of the changes, but things like not being able to set objective or lock to air is game-breaking. I agree with the need to balance attachments to somewhere in the middle of pre/post-patch.
 
new loadout now.. m416 suppressed with no second attachment works well with me
 

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