Server Changes

The thing is, is that there are SO MANY 24/7 Metro, Seine, Bazaar, 24/7 Air Maps, etc servers.

It's almost impossible to find just a regular, full rotation server (all vanilla, or all vanilla + B2K) for both Conquest and Rush.

I think we would do much better keeping it as a full rotation Normal (or maybe HC) Conquest, 500 ticket server.
 
RandyOglestein said:
The thing is, is that there are SO MANY 24/7 Metro, Seine, Bazaar, 24/7 Air Maps, etc servers.

It's almost impossible to find just a regular, full rotation server (all vanilla, or all vanilla + B2K) for both Conquest and Rush.

I think we would do much better keeping it as a full rotation Normal (or maybe HC) Conquest, 500 ticket server.
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Randy but the reason there arent any of those servers left is because they arent the most popular among the majority of players. Think about it metro is the most popular map as well people LOVE grand bazaar seine and Damvand they are some of the most popular maps in bf3 while there are people who have the same idea and thoughts as you a majority of players like certain maps hence all the 24/7 servers
 
axeman22222 said:
Randy but the reason there arent any of those servers left is because they arent the most popular among the majority of players. Think about it metro is the most popular map as well people LOVE grand bazaar seine and Damvand they are some of the most popular maps in bf3 while there are people who have the same idea and thoughts as you a majority of players like certain maps hence all the 24/7 servers
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Exactly, and I thought of that. But why not cater to the people that dont like those servers? Maybe the majority likes them, but what about a still vast minority that would play on our server? I would expect our server under the current settings to actually be HARDER to fill, because there are so many like it that they will go to the first server on their search list.
 
RandyOglestein said:
Exactly, and I thought of that. But why not cater to the people that dont like those servers? Maybe the majority likes them, but what about a still vast minority that would play on our server? I would expect our server under the current settings to actually be HARDER to fill, because there are so many like it that they will go to the first server on their search list.
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This is true however either way we go we would run into the same problem of how hard they are to fill because if a majority of ppl like these maps then it would seem easier to fill them however like you said there are many servers with these maps but if we do your idea then we have to get THAT lesser population of people who like those maps to actually join our servers and with less people liking it would it be enough to keep that server alive? Really though I love this new server and I think if we treat it well it can be our #1 server we just have to get it filled!
 
Wow axe. All I had to read was the first sentence. Why fall short in the popular category when we can excel in the less popular category? Like Randy said, people are going to go to their favorite servers for that, and I'm sure they have some bookmarked. I play on two TDM servers exclusively; if one's not full, the other is. Especially with Armored Kill on the horizon, players are going to be looking for large/vehicle map practice. We can pioneer the new popular category. It's just like real life: you can be the bump on a log, or you can differentiate and be unique. Let's lead, not follow.
 
PBJ said:
Wow axe. All I had to read was the first sentence. Why fall short in the popular category when we can excel in the less popular category? Like Randy said, people are going to go to their favorite servers for that, and I'm sure they have some bookmarked. I play on two TDM servers exclusively; if one's not full, the other is. Especially with Armored Kill on the horizon, players are going to be looking for large/vehicle map practice. We can pioneer the new popular category. It's just like real life: you can be the bump on a log, or you can differentiate and be unique. Let's lead, not follow.
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PBJ let me ask you this if there was enough of a player base to make a server like randy is saying then why isnt there a ton of them already and thats because most players would rather play certain maps rather then ALL of them like look at the TDM servers you play in are all 24/7 Cannals or kharg hence most players like certain maps. If enough people wanted a server like that then there would be a ton of them but the fact is most players prefer a certain group of maps.
 
axeman22222 said:
This is true however either way we go we would run into the same problem of how hard they are to fill because if a majority of ppl like these maps then it would seem easier to fill them however like you said there are many servers with these maps but if we do your idea then we have to get THAT lesser population of people who like those maps to actually join our servers and with less people liking it would it be enough to keep that server alive? Really though I love this new server and I think if we treat it well it can be our #1 server we just have to get it filled!
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That is assuming that the minority is a small number of people. The game has sold millions of copies. The problem is that the minority has no place to play, and we have the ability to provide that place and tap into a large player-base.

I guess the point here is that a just because the majority of players likes a certain thing, doesn't mean we should jump on the bandwagon and add to the already outrageous amount of these very specific servers. Say the majority of the BF3 Normal Conquest player-base is 2/3 of the total. That still leaves 1/3, which is still a very large number of players.

Our B2K server has done well, but there are TONS of B2K servers, which I think has lead to the slight decline of ours. I love B2K, but since I prefer normal, its the only one of our servers that I play on, and it starts to get old after a while, which is partially why I haven't been around as much as I have in the past. I would love the chance to play the vanilla maps (or a full rotation + B2K) again on Normal mode.

And Axe, don't get me wrong, I fully understand the logic behind appealing to the majority, but I just don't think it will work out as well as you would think.
 
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i thought our HC CQD was 48slot? darn, that change aswell or maybe i was seein thangs?
 
RandyOglestein said:
That is assuming that the minority is a small number of people. The game has sold millions of copies. The problem is that the minority has no place to play, and we have the ability to provide that place and tap into a large player-base.

I guess the point here is that a just because the majority of players likes a certain thing, doesn't mean we should jump on the bandwagon and add to the already outrageous amount of these very specific servers. Say the majority of the BF3 Normal Conquest player-base is 2/3 of the total. That still leaves 1/3, which is still a very large number of players.

Our B2K server has done well, but there are TONS of B2K servers, which I think has lead to the slight decline of ours. I love B2K, but since I prefer normal, its the only one of our servers that I play on, and it starts to get old after a while, which is partially why I haven't been around as much as I have in the past. I would love the chance to play the vanilla maps (or a full rotation + B2K) again on Normal mode.

And Axe, don't get me wrong, I fully understand the logic behind appealing to the majority, but I just don't think it will work out as well as you would think.
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Believe me i would love a server like you are saying (but this one that i love comes first) but what i am trying to say is if there was a large enough player base for a server like that then why arent there servers like that. I would certainly love a 32 player conquest small/rush vote server but until we get rid of our CQC server that probs isnt going to happen
 
axeman22222 said:
Believe me i would love a server like you are saying (but this one that i love comes first) but what i am trying to say is if there was a large enough player base for a server like that then why arent there servers like that. I would certainly love a 32 player conquest small/rush vote server but until we get rid of our CQC server that probs isnt going to happen
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There aren't more like them because everyone is doing exactly what we are: jumping on the bandwagon, going after the majority. They don't think through the options, just looking at everyone else and conforming, simply adding to the drudgery and cookie-cutter selection of servers. What would make people choose our server over so many other, already established servers? Our admining/rules? Maybe, but enough to pull in a group of regulars that would keep the server full? I doubt it.

Also, our current server in question is 64, so this full rotation normal conquest would also be 64, not a conquest small/rush server.
 
The City Maps server has risen by almost 1000 ranks in the past 4 days alone, lets keep at it guys and im sure we can crack the top 1000 by the weekend :) Seems like the server is gaining popularity with the pubbers.
 
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