[Realism Campaign 8] 5th Fallschirmj?ger Division

Mavwreck said:
Wow...Well done! That's a lot of detail; what do you use for your sources - or is that a secret? ;)

BTW, what should we use for a nickname? Wikipedia says American troops called Fallschirmj?ger "green devils", which would translate as "gr?nen Teufeln". We could also use "die schreien Adler" for irony's sake :)
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I like the Green Devils :)
 
Mavwreck said:
Wow...Well done! That's a lot of detail; what do you use for your sources - or is that a secret? ;)

BTW, what should we use for a nickname? Wikipedia says American troops called Fallschirmj?ger "green devils", which would translate as "gr?nen Teufeln". We could also use "die schreien Adler" for irony's sake :)
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Don't quote me on it, but I am pretty sure that the large majority of elite German parachute troops that the Americans encountered in the War, were mainly attached to SS divisions. By 1944, the more elite elements of the German army had been depleted so badly that forming full divisions was not possible, so they reinforced the SS. You can watch all the documentaries/movies and see parachute troops fighting alongside SS infantry divisions, and occasionally with the Wehrmacht. Downfall is a good example of this, in the defense of Berlin.

In short, for the Americans, most of the fallschirmj?gers were probably just called fallschirmj?gers, or mistakenly called SS troops. Green devils was a term more commonly used by the Brits and French, if my sources are correct.

-Blue
 
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Blue Stealth said:
Don't quote me on it, but I am pretty sure that the large majority of elite German parachute troops that the Americans encountered in the War, were mainly attached to SS divisions. By 1944, the more elite elements of the German army had been depleted so badly that forming full divisions was not possible, so they reinforced the SS. You can watch all the documentaries/movies and see parachute troops fighting alongside SS infantry divisions, and occasionally with the Wehrmacht. Downfall is a good example of this, in the defense of Berlin.

In short, for the Americans, most of the fallschirmj?gers were probably just called fallschirmj?gers, or mistakenly called SS troops. Green devils was a term more commonly used by the Brits and French, if my sources are correct.

-Blue
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Breakin da rules. Quoted you. Like a boss
 
Blue Stealth said:
Don't quote me on it, but I am pretty sure that the large majority of elite German parachute troops that the Americans encountered in the War, were mainly attached to SS divisions. By 1944, the more elite elements of the German army had been depleted so badly that forming full divisions was not possible, so they reinforced the SS. You can watch all the documentaries/movies and see parachute troops fighting alongside SS infantry divisions, and occasionally with the Wehrmacht. Downfall is a good example of this, in the defense of Berlin.

In short, for the Americans, most of the fallschirmj?gers were probably just called fallschirmj?gers, or mistakenly called SS troops. Green devils was a term more commonly used by the Brits and French, if my sources are correct.

-Blue
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You sir are correct!As I had mentioned in my article, groups called Kampfgruppen were formed made up of artillery, armor and men alike. These men were mixed from all different types of units. After 1941, (notably Crete) there were rarely any sort of parachute drops and none at large scale. They were essentially mixed into defending units across Italy during the Italian campaign where we saw rock hard defending at Monte Cassino at the Benedictine monastery (this is where they gained the nickname "the green devils" (Gr?ne Teufel) and as was mentioned in France. The Fallschirmj?ger units became normal ground forces with an elite edge.
 
Mavwreck said:
Wow...Well done! That's a lot of detail; what do you use for your sources - or is that a secret? ;)

BTW, what should we use for a nickname? Wikipedia says American troops called Fallschirmj?ger "green devils", which would translate as "gr?nen Teufeln". We could also use "die schreien Adler" for irony's sake :)
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Thanks Mavwreck! I used a mix of research between books I personally own, online articles written by other historians (which can be found in PDF file and are a GOLD MINE for information) and random websites that give a nice overview of different units on each side, which I found at random through google! Everything that was outside of quotes, I had created in my own words after my research! :thumbup1:
 
United we stand, divided we fall. Excellent video Meg!
 
Thanks you dig? for this one...

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