Build around 1000$ and good equipment to go with it?

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Alright.. so the computer I'm playing on sucks(it doesn't even have a deedicated graphics card), so I aim to build one for around 1000$, and I also need suggestions for accessories(keyboard,mouse,etc.). I am completely new to building my own, but I know it's cheaper. :D
Anyways, can a majority please help me out and agree on which is the best build for around 1000$?
 
Here ya go, even put a link to all the parts on pastebin for you to save you the trouble of searching.
[ame]http://pastebin.com/41CqAV9Z[/ame]
Total build comes to a little more than 1k but that's because I included a monitor, keyboard (mechanical keyboard. If its not mechanical you're doing it wrong) and mouse.


15XEv
 
Nice build, sephiroth. I'd personally bump up to a quad-core instead of getting the SSD, but that's me. There are some games that use four cores now, and that number will only be increasing.

On the PSU, I'd recommend just buying a low-wattage (but still quality!) unit since that build won't break 400W. If crossfire is legitimately on the table, that's another thing. It just doesn't sound like it is. The CX430v2 is probably the best low-wattage unit at a decent price.
 
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This is a much better build for the same price. Better ssd, cpu, psu, monitor, and mouse. Beyond that, the rest of the equipment is pretty close to an even swap. The cpu upgrade in my build alone is worth the switch. SSD is also twice the size. Some of the prices relies on deals gong on currently, but since those change up, the recommended equipment might change at time of purchase, but the total price should be about equivalent.

This is a little over your budget, but not really any place I would skimp on. Unfortunately, it doesn't include windows 7 either, but there are some places you can get it cheaper like university.
 
I wouldn't say a Rosewill PS is an upgrade over an Antec and OCZ doesn't have the best track record for SSDs.

OP, head on over to reddit.com/r/buildapc. Learn everything you can. Then get a build and post it for feedback. It's the best and easiest way to get a good build.
 
OCZ vertex 4 is not a sandforce controller. It also has a 5 year warranty.

Just because it is antec does not mean it is a good psu. Rosewill has some good offerings with there latest units in the hive and capstone series.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=248

Same platform as the hive. The only mediocrities are addressed for the most part with the hive or do not actually matter for most users.

The best and easiest way to get a good build is to follow my advice.

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Also, with the keyboard, the best mechanical switches are going to be browns, but they are usually on more expensive keyboards. Next, red and blacks are going to be the best option. Blues come in at last as they are more of a typist switch. They are still decent for gaming, but not as good as the other switches.
 
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a pet rock said:
Nice build, sephiroth. I'd personally bump up to a quad-core instead of getting the SSD, but that's me. There are some games that use four cores now, and that number will only be increasing.

On the PSU, I'd recommend just buying a low-wattage (but still quality!) unit since that build won't break 400W. If crossfire is legitimately on the table, that's another thing. It just doesn't sound like it is. The CX430v2 is probably the best low-wattage unit at a decent price.
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quad core for what? there is no problem with the dual core cpu the I put in the build.
 
For gaming, buying a new dual core doesn't really make much sense if he wants to use this build for a few years
 
Sephiroth said:
Name 5 engines that utilize more than 2 cores?
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Frostbite/Frostbite 2
Unreal Engine 3
Source
Phoenix
Whatever engine Darksiders 2 uses
Whatever engine cod uses
Whatever engine Civilization 5 uses
 
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You could use the core 2 duo and over clock it to hell to play bf3 lol but lets be honest here
 
Aaaaaand the final ruling: Why buy something if it's already not going to last? I like huckleberry's build, but you're 10% over his budget. If you factor the MIR, you're almost exactly $100 over, and what product is almost exactly $100...?

With that said, unless the $1000 is truly all you can afford to spend, losing the SSD may be the best thing to do. However, if you're willing to do credit (Newegg Preferred), you can pay for it all on credit, then pay the first month's invoice with the $1000, and now you got 11 months to pay for the SSD (The extra $100). $10/mo sounds easy, doesn't it?
 
RedDragonKnight said:
Frostbite/Frostbite 2
Unreal Engine 3
Source
Phoenix
Whatever engine Darksiders 2 uses
Whatever engine cod uses
Whatever engine Civilization 5 uses
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Source utilizes a single core.
Call of duty uses the IW engine. Which doesn't support multiple cores.
civ 5 i'm unsure of as I dont have the game, nor do I intend to get it.
Darksiders I am again unsure of.
and the rest I am unsure of at the current time.


Muffs said:
You could use the core 2 duo and over clock it to hell to play bf3 lol but lets be honest here
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Do you have any idea what you're talking about?


killer4000 said:
Witcher 2 - 4+ core
Crysis 2 Ultra settings - 3 fast cores
Bulletstrorm - 3 core
Deus Ex - 4 core
GTA IV - 4 core
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Crysis 2 will run fine with a dual core, Recommended settings are a dual core.
Bulletstorm will run perfectly on a dual core.
Deus ex will again run perfectly on a dual core.
GTA IV runs perfectly on a dual core.


Also these aren't engines.
 
Sephiroth said:
Crysis 2 will run fine with a dual core, Recommended settings are a dual core.
Bulletstorm will run perfectly on a dual core.
Deus ex will again run perfectly on a dual core.
GTA IV runs perfectly on a dual core.
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Also these aren't engines.
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They run on an engine, which if its described by the name generally means they just don't know the specific engine name but the person listening or reading usually gets the gist of it. Many engines now utilize multiple cores, two, three or four, saying that they don't usually means you don't know the engine. Play some game like TF2 with a dual core and then with a quad, there's a difference maybe not as great as saying BF3, MW3, CS:GO, or other games out there now, but you'd be surprised that quad cores help more than you think. Also Crysis 2 with a dual core... okay then. Tell me how that works out....

By the way, quad cores are the best way to go for gaming. Saying a dual core will run games that someone may play fine is a joke maybe 5 years ago that was the case, but developers are starting to fully utilize multiple cores and it shows. Friends and family ask me for advice on building computers for gaming and I always tell them quad core, AMD or Intel.

This is 2012, a quad core is cheap now. Why waste the power and time on something less? A Phenom II X4 goes for no more than $119 (or so), a dual core will go for half of that. A Core i5 (Quad Core) will go for $189 to $249, while a Core i3 is half or slightly over half of that. So why not just double it now and just get a quad core, that way you save time and energy of having to replace it later.

Anyways Huckleberry's CPU/RAM/Mobo/GPU selection will work fine, but could opt out of that SSD, as for the same price it will have probably doubled in size or moved to a PCIe (I plan on buying one when I actually am not in debt from college loans D:! ) slot for even faster data transfer and reading by this time next year.

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Engine Specifications:

Source Engine (Valve Software) : Multiprocessor support (2007, The Orange Box), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_Engine
CryEngine ( CryTek ) : Multi-core support, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryEngine_2
Civilization 5 Game Engine [Unknown Name] ( Firaxis ) : Minimum requirements: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz or AMD Athlon 64 X2 2.0 GHz Processor, Recommended: 1.8 GHz Quad Core Processor, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilization_V
IW Engine ( Infinity Ward ) : Minimum Requirements: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 or AMD Phenom X3 8750 processor or better, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_duty_modern_warfare_3
Deus Ex: Human Revolution [Modified Crystal Engine] (Eidos Montreal) : Minimum Requirements: 2 GHz dual core CPU, Recommended: AMD Phenom II X4 or Intel Core 2 Quad or better CPU, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex:_Human_Revolution
Unreal Engine 3 ( Epic Games ) "...multi-processor performance", http://www.unrealengine.com/en/features/

I could go on, but you can see a pattern arise. They either are capable of using multiple cores or require at least a dual core, but for the best or most fluid experience a quad core is generally recommended. Yes I cited Wikipedia, but I could just go on Steam and access the requirements for the games or the games that use those specific engines. Also not many Engines are available for specifications probably due to being proprietary software.
 
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Unreal Engine 3
Frostbite 2
Source
ID Tech5
Cry Engine3
Havok
and PhysX

is those that I can think of that utilize games with more than two cores ;) I think .. or i might just be fatally wrong :D
 
Ok guys, lets stop trying to 1up each other on these ?s & get back to the point of trying to get this guy the best dang desktop his $$ can possibly afford. I do think that Snipeye does bring up a great point.

Lets help him get on the bare essentials for now (case, cpu, mobo, memory, video card, hd (he can save later for a ssd), psu. Did anyone bother to ask what he really had to use that he could bring over from his current setup? If this question was asked, then please forgive me & forget that I asked that.

Overall guys, this thread totally went way off topic (talk bout engines that run games). Lets focus on helping him get the proper upgrades so that he can build his system & then either use the $$ he saved or let him wait to save more $$ so that he can continue to upgrade his system further in the future.
 
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