We want your opinion: CP Rotation

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I like cp a lot because I want to play cp but I want variety in my cp. The same reason I like pl. I dont go on vm often because I might want to play one gamemode, but then the instant I get in it goes to some other one I dont want to play. I really like these kind of servers and wish we had more of them like a koth rotation along with our other servers(but please no ctf rotation ctf in this game is broken). Lastly PLEASE NOT ANOTHER 2FORT SERVER. 2FORT IS SO NOT FUN TO PLAY UNLESS YOU WANT TO SIT ON THE BATTLEMENTS SNIPING ALL DAY.

 

[Puke-N-Snot]

Change the map to 24/7 Black Mesa. Please. I'm begging you.

Huh ? They only time I've ever seen BM get voted on for a map change & win is when the server is mostly filled with eGO. Other wise I don't see the general public calling for Black Mesa.

Sorry I have no real answer as to how we can keep it filled ( you'd have to think it's a map issue though) but I'd really hate to see CP go away
And another 2fort, Ugh

 

[Simon]

I'm sort of leaning on bringing back insta-respawn 2fort... I used to love that server. Black Mesa used to be very popular - perhaps if we had some specific specialty map server, that might work well too?

 

[Goz]

Other wise I don't see the general public calling for Black Mesa.

You weren't here for the Mesa Incident.

I'm sort of leaning on bringing back insta-respawn 2fort... I used to love that server. Black Mesa used to be very popular - perhaps if we had some specific specialty map server, that might work well too?

No quickplay. How long does it take for people to understand that anything not vanilla is not quickplay supported?

 

[Grynn]

How about payload rotation? Everyone loves payload apparently. I love CP, but sadly if it is empty, I don't try to fill it </3. But I would support payload rotation. Goldrush > Badwater > Upward > Frontier > Hoodoo > PLRs, etc?

 

[Magus]

How about payload rotation? Everyone loves payload apparently. I love CP, but sadly if it is empty, I don't try to fill it </3. But I would support payload rotation. Goldrush > Badwater > Upward > Frontier > Hoodoo > PLRs, etc?

Silly goose

 

[Grynn]

Silly goose

Why have I never seen this before? It's at the top of the server list ;-;

In that case I feel like an idiot, but I'll modify my statement and say have it plr or 24/7 hightower

 

[Magus]

Why have I never seen this before? It's at the top of the server list ;-;

In that case I feel like an idiot, but I'll modify my statement and say have it plr or 24/7 hightower

Don't worry about it. My idiot was off the charts (and still is) when I was an =(e)=

 

[Uncle Creepy]

I have no preference on this matter

 

[Mr. Monday]

Change it to a KOTH rotation

This exactly.

Of course, I wouldn't be averse to turning it into another 2fort, though I'd lose another server =/

 

[hEY]

No quickplay. How long does it take for people to understand that anything not vanilla is not quickplay supported?

Note that I'm not saying that thinking only about quickplay is wrong or silly, but perhaps we shouldn't just be so blindly pursuing quickplay. QP is obviously not helping the server now, because people just aren't playing it. I'd be in favor of dropping it and focusing on the other servers, even though I'd hate to see a server go away. Thus, I would actually not mind another 2 fort (I also loved the Insta-respawn server) or even just keeping it.

But really, if it's not getting filled ANYWAY, you lose nothing from again trying some specialty maps that have worked in the past. I'm not promising that this time will be different or something like that, just that empty quickplay-enabled server is no different from empty non-quickplay-enabled server. (If you could fill regularly fill Blackmesa for 3 hours a day or just have it half full for half the day, the server'd already be doing better.)

 

[Deathwing]

How about a server that runs custom game types like dodgeball or Vs. Saxton Hale?

 

[Kazoo]

Note that I'm not saying that thinking only about quickplay is wrong or silly, but perhaps we shouldn't just be so blindly pursuing quickplay. QP is obviously not helping the server now, because people just aren't playing it. I'd be in favor of dropping it and focusing on the other servers, even though I'd hate to see a server go away. Thus, I would actually not mind another 2 fort (I also loved the Insta-respawn server) or even just keeping it.

But really, if it's not getting filled ANYWAY, you lose nothing from again trying some specialty maps that have worked in the past. I'm not promising that this time will be different or something like that, just that empty quickplay-enabled server is no different from empty non-quickplay-enabled server. (If you could fill regularly fill Blackmesa for 3 hours a day or just have it half full for half the day, the server'd already be doing better.)

I just want to say, QuickPlay doesn't fill the servers, it helps keep the server filled. We need enough people to help jump-start the server. After that, QuickPlay keeps it populated with pubs for a good number of hours. This of course depends on what the people want to play on.

If we do try a non-QuickPlay server, it would need very strong support from the community. With school quickly approaching midterms, I wonder if that'd be possible at this time.

 

[Puke-N-Snot]

You weren't here for the Mesa Incident.

The only Mesa Incident I've been there for was being in the server this weekend & watching a server that had players quickly get reduced to 6 or less.

Why I can't say, but that's what I've experienced on the server this weekend. I would sadly miss CP rotation.

 

[Wubstep]

dont get me wrong, i love 2fort, but we dont need more than one 2fort server, just because oh, 2fort fills the best, lets make a new one, no. one of the things i love about edge gamers is having so many different choices of who i play with, when i play, and how i play, and adding in a new 2fort kinda takes away from that. as of now i can play all day, without leaving ego servers, because there are so many different kinds of maps, like if im tried of getting camped im dustbowl, ill go over to cp, or 2fort, if im tired of running through sewers on 2fort, ill go to valve maps, cp or payload, but adding a new 2fort, really doenst help any of that, if anything i feel like it is going to hurt us as a clan, sure it will fill, but do we really want to take the easy way out? people might think yay 2fort but i think, we didnt try, we didnt put forward any effort, and really, we just took something that gave us good numbers and tryed to copy it.



long story short, i dont think we need/should have a second 2fort

 

[Goz]

The only Mesa Incident I've been there for was being in the server this weekend & watching a server that had players quickly get reduced to 6 or less.

Why I can't say, but that's what I've experienced on the server this weekend. I would sadly miss CP rotation.

Rather not get into a long history so:

>Used to have a 24/7 32 slot Blackmesa Server
>Valve restricts quickplay some more.
>Mesa dies out; server removed.
>Entire community in uproar.

 

[hEY]

I just want to say, QuickPlay doesn't fill the servers, it helps keep the server filled. We need enough people to help jump-start the server.
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If we do try a non-QuickPlay server, it would need very strong support from the community. With school quickly approaching midterms, I wonder if that'd be possible at this time.

Mhmm, I was saying that I don't often see enough people on CP to even kickstart QP (and rarely, if ever, without FFTF), but yes, you are right, it is lovely for keeping servers populated. I was also not aware that BlackMesa was ever quickplay. That changes that. If we are relying on quickplay, then it does seem unlikely we'll be able to fill servers at this time of year, since midterms and other such things affect both eGO members seeding QP and the general gaming public joining the games. So, I very reluctantly and unhappily favor dropping the server and associated costs and burdens. Theoretically, it could be brought back in a more popular season.

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we dont need more than one 2fort server, just because oh, 2fort fills the best, lets make a new one, no. one of the things i love about edge gamers is having so many different choices of who i play with, when i play, and how i play, and adding in a new 2fort kinda takes away from that.
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if anything i feel like it is going to hurt us as a clan, sure it will fill, but do we really want to take the easy way out? people might think yay 2fort but i think, we didnt try, we didnt put forward any effort, and really, we just took something that gave us good numbers and tryed to copy it.

That's a fair point, but I do disagree, if only because the two 2forts were instrumental in my joining eGO. Isn't it unfair to suggest that adding another 2fort wouldn't be putting in any effort? The people in eGO and the people playing TF2 are not the same group. Thus, BlackMesa is hard to fill, but 2fort is much easier. But, it's often random pubs who don't play TF2 religiously that benefit the most from playing in eGO servers. I (to be a terrible person) refer us to eGO's mission:

These successes are also attributed to eGO's mission, which is to provide a place where gamers of all calibers, from all over the world, can meet for family friendly, respectful game play.

I certainly appreciate variety, but an empty CP or PL barely does any more for gaming variety than no server, or another 2fort, or some other reviled, but popular map. And, ultimately, I want to see more people enjoying the game of TF2 in a fun, comfortable environment. (Might even be our responsibility as eGO members, if you'll buy that.) If we can do that through CP Rotation, that's awesome, and I'm all for it. If we can do that better through another 2fort, then so be it. And if we can't do it right now, then let's not waste our time trying.

 

[Caelestis]

Simply to clear up what appears to be a misconception underlying part of the foregoing argument, Black Mesa is not QuickPlay supported. In acknowledgment of its advocates, it was added to the rotation lineup with the operating thought that, if it were integrated into a control points map rotation with QuickPlay supported maps, it would bring back some people and not lose too many pubs in the process.

 

[Poor Man]

I would throw my opinion in for another 2fort or dustbowl. I always see those full and the cp needs constant filling

 

[Wubstep]

That's a fair point, but I do disagree, if only because the two 2forts were instrumental in my joining eGO. Isn't it unfair to suggest that adding another 2fort wouldn't be putting in any effort? The people in eGO and the people playing TF2 are not the same group. Thus, BlackMesa is hard to fill, but 2fort is much easier. But, it's often random pubs who don't play TF2 religiously that benefit the most from playing in eGO servers. I (to be a terrible person) refer us to eGO's mission:


I certainly appreciate variety, but an empty CP or PL barely does any more for gaming variety than no server, or another 2fort, or some other reviled, but popular map. And, ultimately, I want to see more people enjoying the game of TF2 in a fun, comfortable environment. (Might even be our responsibility as eGO members, if you'll buy that.) If we can do that through CP Rotation, that's awesome, and I'm all for it. If we can do that better through another 2fort, then so be it. And if we can't do it right now, then let's not waste our time trying.

that is very true