GTX 770 or 780

[Joe_The_Plumber]

Hey guys! Me again...... so if you can't remember I made a thread maybe 2 weeks ago asking advice for parts for a build. I set myself a budget but it quickly grew and am now faced with another dilemna of sorts! hahaha.

So in my original build I believe I had a GTX 600 series GPU, and quickly upgraded to the 770 when it came out as it essentially replaced the GTX 670.

Well anyways, I've bought several parts to my build but the GPU is one of the things I've been holding off on. I've seen reviews and videos that show the performance for the GTX 770 really isn't that spectacular, especially compared to the 780. I know I may not need the performance of the GTX 780, but I don't necessarily want to have to upgrade later on (2-3 years from now). The most demanding games I really plan on playing right now are the past and upcoming Battlefield and Oblivion games

I would just like to hear opinions from you guys on what you may have done in the past with upgrades or anything. I could either fork up the extra ~$230 for the GTX 780 or go with the 770 and go SLI later on if I feel the need to. I have no experience with SLI setups but I assume it can't be that hard....

 

[m e z z o]

What resolution will you be playing at and does it matter to you if you can/cant have all of advanced graphic options set to their highest?

SLI is easy to work with for the most part. Just have the SLI cable attached to the cards and enable SLI via the nvidia control panel. Then its just a matter of whether the game your playing supports SLI as well as the current version drivers.

 

[Joe_The_Plumber]

That's true. SLI setup should be easy but I didn't think about games not being able to support it. That is something I would do several months to a year down the road though if I decide to do the 770 as well as go SLI.

Honestly I would be happy with medium-high settings with decent fps. I don't know how high Battlefield 3 goes (I know some games go to ultra high now or something?) or BF4 would go, but anything in the middle-higher range is what I'm aiming for.

EDIT: just reread your comment.... and no, the advanced graphic options aren't very important to me

Also resolution is on a 24" screen.... so around 1920 x 1080 i guess

 

[matt98]

Personally i always prefer going for the strongest single card i can get from the respective company i use. I found over the years a single 80 85 or 90 series of respective models is much better then sli the 60 / 70 comparable models for stability. So i would probably lean toward a single 780 over 2 770s due to being little cheaper for the overall rig and more stable. But in end it really comes down to what your going to do with the pc.

 

[Wizekraker]

That's true. SLI setup should be easy but I didn't think about games not being able to support it. That is something I would do several months to a year down the road though if I decide to do the 770 as well as go SLI.

Honestly I would be happy with medium-high settings with decent fps. I don't know how high Battlefield 3 goes (I know some games go to ultra high now or something?) or BF4 would go, but anything in the middle-higher range is what I'm aiming for.

EDIT: just reread your comment.... and no, the advanced graphic options aren't very important to me

Also resolution is on a 24" screen.... so around 1920 x 1080 i guess

Im getting gtx 780 late this week or early next week. If you want I can give you some benchmarks for it for bf3.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130918

 

[Joe_The_Plumber]

Im getting gtx 780 late this week or early next week. If you want I can give you some benchmarks for it for bf3.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130918

Hehe I've watched a lot of videos about comparisons but if you have a good example then by all means I would love to see it. Although I will likely (at least I hope) decide on the GPU by the time you receive yours, I would still like to hear how it goes for you in case I get the 770. If I get the 780 then I guess I'll see for myself . It does seem to sound better the more I think about it.

 

[m e z z o]

I would recommend a 780, given the games, monitor and resolution you're looking to play.

My 690 at 1920x1200 sometimes is put to the test with new games and their advanced aa settings.

with a 780 you will be very happy. 770 and you may wonder about what could've been

in depth review of the 780 here... these guys are one of the best in benchmarking.

Gold award for the 780.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/05/23/nvidia_geforce_gtx_780_video_card_review/#.Ub-yHPmcepo

As far as manufacturer. id either get

Asus, MSI, or evga. - evga tend to have the best warranties.

 

[Joe_The_Plumber]

I would recommend a 780, given the games, monitor and resolution you're looking to play.

My 690 at 1920x1200 sometimes is put to the test with new games and their advanced aa settings.

with a 780 you will be very happy. 770 and you may wonder about what could've been

in depth review of the 780 here... these guys are one of the best in benchmarking.

Gold award for the 780.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/05/23/nvidia_geforce_gtx_780_video_card_review/#.Ub-yHPmcepo

As far as manufacturer. id either get

Asus, MSI, or evga. - evga tend to have the best warranties.

Yeah haha, I'm coming from a very well balanced school laptop that runs some older games just fine, so I don't know what to think of these newer cards. The last time I played on a gaming oriented desktop was when BF2 was in its prime, and just like this time around I bought that PC for the main purpose of playing BF2 haha.

I feel like I would be expecting almost too much from the 770 since I've been away from the market (PC components as well as games) so long. SLI 770's would be a better price/performance ratio at the end of the day, at least in my mind, but my gut feeling is and has been to just go for a strong single card that I won't have to mess with for a couple years. I feel like you could easily justify upgrading a 770 by this time in 2015. For now I think I've decided on the 780

 

[I'm your huckleberry]

Personally, a gtx 770 at that resolution should be plenty for the time frame you are talking about and since you don't care about all the advanced image quality settings. It also is $400 vs $650 (60% more) yet the 780 only nets you about 15% more performance stock compared to stock. The 780 can probably squeeze a bit more performance from overclocking compared to overclocking the 770, but even there, you are not making up for the difference in price. The 780 just draws a huge premium since amd has nothing at the moment to combat it, so you would be punished for buying it so early (the only other option would be waiting for amd to release its card in a few months). But given how dominant the 770 is in performance, I don't see you having a problem with newer games for a year to two to come. The best thing about going with the cheaper card is it will be easier to sell and get your money back in the future leaving you more money to spend on a newer generation card. 780 would really only start to shine in multi monitor scenarios with its additional performance and vram. Just my thoughts though.

 

[Yolobot]

Are you getting a 120hz (or more) monitor?

 

[Joe_The_Plumber]

Are you getting a 120hz (or more) monitor?

I've already bought the 770..... as much as I wanted the 780 I couldn't justify the extra $250 when the 770 suits my needs fine. It'll be a single 144hz monitor though

 

[I'm your huckleberry]

I've already bought the 770..... as much as I wanted the 780 I couldn't justify the extra $250 when the 770 suits my needs fine. It'll be a single 144hz monitor

I think you made the sound choice. Neither would have been a bad decision, but like you said, price justification for the performance increase just wasn't really there.

 

[Yolobot]

I've already bought the 770..... as much as I wanted the 780 I couldn't justify the extra $250 when the 770 suits my needs fine. It'll be a single 144hz monitor though

You wont reach more than 70 fps on games like bf3, so unless you'll be playing old-ish games, you wont need a 144hz monitor.

 

[Joe_The_Plumber]

You wont reach more than 70 fps on games like bf3, so unless you'll be playing old-ish games, you wont need a 144hz monitor.

I realize that.... I chose the monitor for several other reasons though.

Two things: I generally play games in a window, and I also usually lower some settings to get better performance. I realize I likely won't utilize the full 144hz but I assumed (and thought I saw in a video review) that it can be lowered to 120hz. I hope I'm not wrong, but will it have a negative impact if I get ~100fps on a 144hz monitor?

I couldn't find any other monitors with similar features (size, adjustability) in the same price range that I seemed to like. Monitors are another things I am not 100% educated on hahaha, so if you have any suggestions I would obviously be welcome to them!

I have not bought the monitor yet (it's the Asus VG248QE) but I kind of have to buy one either tomorrow or sometime Monday. I'm still searching though.