Theorycrafting question

[FlyingWaffle]

So, I was just daydreaming about my Goblin Techies, and I was thinking... what would the best situation for the Techies to be in? I mean more of team comp wise.

So, I thought and I thought about what would be best with techies... and I came to this conclusion.

Safelane would be Techies and sniper. Techies plants mines, and occasionally suicides. Sniper with his long range can pick off low health targets, meaning he should get fed. At level 6, this lane would be unstoppable. Remote Mines + stasis trap. Sniper minibashing, if you manage to escape you get assassinated. Just beautiful.

Then mid you would have pudge. In the jungle near the lane, in a spot that would be nice to hook from, plant 3 or 4 mines. Pudge hooks someone, they land on the mines. If they survive that, pudge is there with rot.

In the jungle we have Enigma. He comes in and stuns someone, then does some damage with his pulse. Once he is 6 this gets evil. He ults, then techies runs up and plants a stasis mine, then some remote/land mines. I don't see anyone living from this.

The offlane could be anyone I suppose. I would personally prefer Broodmother just because of her insane pushing abilities.

What do you guys think?

Oh... I just remembered that quite a bit of you guys probably haven't played DotA 1, so you probably don't have any experience with him, though I think knowing his abilities (which I hope everyone does) is enough to theorycraft with this.

 

[LaUgHiNgStOcK]

While this would be entertaining, I'm not sure how effective it is.

For starters, mid pudge is easily countered. If he s counter-picked, then you better have a damn good player playing him otherwise you just lost mid lane.

Second, if you DON'T get early kills with the techies/sniper combo you are screwed. Sniper wouldn't get the necessary levels to be effective once techies goes off to plant mines/assist other lanes.

Enigma jungling is decent normally, but i would prefer someone who has more lane presence if you're going to have techies roam. Maybe an Enchantress good Chen player who can come over with powerful minions to help secure those earlier kills

Also, off-lane brood is only good if the other team doesn't know how to lane against him, as has been proven by any and every pro-match i've seen where one team picked brood for off-lane. A simple purchase of sentry wards wins that lane against Brood. Better off-lane heroes would be 1)somebody with a stun aka Windrunner, or 2)somebody that is a semi cary to help with the load for sniper aka Bounty Hunter (although the sentry ward thing does hamper bh, but not as bad as brood).

With that being said, this could be a potentially hilarious combo to see in game, but everybody knows the best laning combo with techies is either Pudge/techies or Tiny/techies

 

[FlyingWaffle]

While this would be entertaining, I'm not sure how effective it is.

For starters, mid pudge is easily countered. If he s counter-picked, then you better have a damn good player playing him otherwise you just lost mid lane.

Second, if you DON'T get early kills with the techies/sniper combo you are screwed. Sniper wouldn't get the necessary levels to be effective once techies goes off to plant mines/assist other lanes.

Enigma jungling is decent normally, but i would prefer someone who has more lane presence if you're going to have techies roam. Maybe an Enchantress good Chen player who can come over with powerful minions to help secure those earlier kills

Also, off-lane brood is only good if the other team doesn't know how to lane against him, as has been proven by any and every pro-match i've seen where one team picked brood for off-lane. A simple purchase of sentry wards wins that lane against Brood. Better off-lane heroes would be 1)somebody with a stun aka Windrunner, or 2)somebody that is a semi cary to help with the load for sniper aka Bounty Hunter (although the sentry ward thing does hamper bh, but not as bad as brood).

With that being said, this could be a potentially hilarious combo to see in game, but everybody knows the best laning combo with techies is either Pudge/techies or Tiny/techies

Techies not getting early kills... I don't see this happening. If worse comes to worse, you could suicide for sniper to pick up the kills. If not, then the enemy will be out of farm because they are afraid to die. Not only that, but with snipers extreme range, he can harass easily. It wouldn't be very difficult for the enemy to win this lane.

Pudge really only lanes until he has a bottle, and maybe an urn, and hits level 5. Once that happens, he's usually ganking, securing kills for others. Which is how a mid should be. If for some reason mid is just farming, then techies and pudge can kill him with the before suggested hooking into mines. There really aren't very many heroes who counter pudge, the only I can think of that would actually matter would be huskar, mainly because he's just so broken at the moment.

I get what you are saying with broodmother. However, whenever I play her, the enemy laners usually do get sentry wards. So I get my own sentry wards, and take theirs out. If they get more, I just do it again. After that, they wont ward anymore. They might get a gem, but by them I am so ahead in farm an levels I can easily kill them.

I see your point with the jungle, but I still feel Engima would be best. Chen would also work very well though. He can stun with centaur, then use penitence and if I get some remote mines off there's no way they would live, plus sniper is still there shooting at them. So I could see that working.

Anything else to add?