Glocks are reliable, fired thousands through mine with no problem, like the feel of it, and I'm even fond of the looks. Also, its nice to able to strip it down and put it back together in minutes and with nothing more than an awl (I use it to push out the pins) and your fingers. Just dont forget to clear the chamber before removing the slide!
How many here get into real guns?
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I think I'll go to the knob creek range today and shoot my guns -this thread has me all pumped and stuff - guns!
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People who have a mind to take another life don't need guns. They can use a rock, car, rope, knife, metal pipe, brick, bare hands, etc. Those are the people that I carry to defend against.
Not everyone should carry a gun. Many have too hot of tempers.
Cubey I think your 80 million is a little low... I think there are that many in just the northeastern states
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even the president of the united states has secret service armed with guns to protect him - its just the way it is - like I said -I'd rather have a gun and not need it, than not have 1 and need it
People who have a mind to take another life don't need guns. They can use a rock, car, rope, knife, metal pipe, brick, bare hands, etc. Those are the people that I carry to defend against.
Not everyone should carry a gun. Many have too hot of tempers.
Cubey I think your 80 million is a little low... I think there are that many in just the northeastern states
Yes, infact it is 1 out of 9709 people in America die from gun related deaths. Compared to 1/400,000 in the UK(other European countries are similar) and as little as 1/1,666,000 in Japan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
The weapons law for Japan begins by stating "No-one shall possess a fire-arm or fire-arms or a sword or swords", and very few exceptions are allowed. To be blunt, it works.
And sadly it is MUCH easier to kill, in the heat of the moment, or preplanned, if you are using a gun rather than a rock or a knife as you suggested, and leaves the intentional homicide rate for america again much higher than in transposing gun controlling countries.
In 1996 Australia banned semi-automatic weapons and "The American Journal of Law and Economics reported in 2010 that firearm homicides in Australia dropped 59 percent between 1995 and 2006. In the 18 years before the 1996 laws, there were 13 gun massacres resulting in 102 deaths, according to Harvard researchers, with none in that category since."
The UK had legal handguns until 1996, but due to semi regular school shootings, we banned them, and have had nothing similar since.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/october/16/newsid_3110000/3110949.stm
"Not everyone should carry a gun. Many have too hot of tempers. " Sums it up completely, we cannot trust that all people will use them safely, so why leave it up to the individual to judge themselves as unworthy? Because they wont. Leave these weapons to professionals to protect you, don't take it upon yourself. We have a similar rule for eGO, try not to admin people who have attacked you directly, leave it to someone else, you are more likely to make the wrong call.
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As a former 'Professional' living in a rural area where it can take 15-30 minutes for law enforcement to reach you in some parts of the county I would advise against this line of thought. I am not going to address anymore of your post here as you are still trying to get the thread closed.
That's either a failure of your police, so the logic would be to give your effort and money trying to improve them rather than fight gun control lobbyists, or you live so far away from others the chances of you encountering someone who will bring long term harm that only a firearm could defend against, that also requires immediate defence is so much less than the chances of you causing problems for others and yourself, if you own a firearm.
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You could pump millions of dollars into local/state law enforcement and they still would not be able to help you as you're being mugged on the side of the road or having your house broken into. You do realize that the majority of gun collectors and hunters are arguably more experienced and responsible with their firearms than many police officers are? I truly don't mean to discredit law enforcement, because I know it's not true for all of them, but many officers I know personally picked up their first weapon during training.
That's a nice list steel. The M590 is also on my bucket list of things to get, or any other 12 gauge I decide on at the time. That is another niiice gun
Also forgot to add earlier that my grandfather passed down a 1952 S&W .38 snub nose with a wooden grip.... very fun to play with on the range
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matz - move to Detroit and take a walk around - good luck
You could pump millions of dollars into local/state law enforcement and they still would not be able to help you as you're being mugged on the side of the road or having your house broken into. You do realize that the majority of gun collectors and hunters are arguably more experienced and responsible with their firearms than many police officers are? I truly don't mean to discredit law enforcement, because I know it's not true for all of them, but many officers I know personally picked up their first weapon during training.
That's a nice list steel. The M590 is also on my bucket list of things to get, or any other 12 gauge I decide on at the time. That is another niiice gun
Also forgot to add earlier that my grandfather passed down a 1952 S&W .38 snub nose with a wooden grip.... very fun to play with on the range
Joe your absolutly Right. Most Police departments have mandatory training with firearms once ever 6 months. In My line of work, qualify ONCE a YEAR! that is Terrible!
But being a 2nd Amendment Activist that i am, I Shot every chance i get with Every firearm that i own. That goes the same with my Wife and family. I'm always trying to to demonstrate the importance of utilizing your rights as a citizen before they get taken away. I Open Carry Every where i go and have actually talked sence into Alot of indiviuals, and to this day, most of my close friends Open Carry now as well.
I hope so much that you stay as mentally stable as you are now, sadly however you don't have control over that, so it is just a hope. Because we all know that if you don't stay sane, there is nothing stopping you from keeping your guns long enough to kill. Sadly.
That 'right' that some guys gave you in an constitution 300 years ago is defiantly more important than the long term safety of everyone around you. 'Why should we all not have weapons, if no one in the country has weapons, someone might shoot us.'
Amendments are just that, amendments, and I do hope another is made before the next high school shooting.
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When the zombies come Matz, tell me how Japan and all the other euro countries are doing.
On the related note, I've only gotten to fire a few shotguns and pistols outside of the military. Most recently a Saiga. That was fun.
But at basic I did get to shoot the SAW and 240B, along with an M4 and M16.
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Yes.... think of the zombies
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ruger new bearcat
colt new agent
kareen hi power
browning semi auto 22
ruger m77 frontier
k31
ar-15 (dissipator)
h&r pardner pump (870 clone)
https://www.apexgunparts.com/product_info.php/cPath/152/products_id/3490
i really want to build one of these, but $$$.
colt new agent
kareen hi power
browning semi auto 22
ruger m77 frontier
k31
ar-15 (dissipator)
h&r pardner pump (870 clone)
https://www.apexgunparts.com/product_info.php/cPath/152/products_id/3490
i really want to build one of these, but $$$.
I'm speechless to your ignorance Matz, to think that someone can just go mentally insane because they have guns? Im disgusted that citizen's think like that... You should be ashamed of yourself. To think if we stop Gun sales, the problems will go away. However, this Debate isn't up for discussion on this topic. If you wish to engage on this converstation in Ventrilo, we can gladly set up an event for this.
Omg! I never that! :S You must have completely miss understood or miss read that.
I have never, and would never say or believe that you could go mentally insane because you own a gun.
My point was that as only insane people would kill innocents, this makes the average gun owner seem not a threat, but anyone can go insane at any time an start to kill people because of that. And the availability and ownership of guns makes the situation much worse. More legal or illegal guns in the system means more death for all.
So I do think that a reduction in gun sales, using similar, but different policies to what they enforced in Australia and the UK will reduce homicides and the frequency of these school shootings, as it did in both of those countries.
