[poll] Spy bug

[Max The Bunny]

There's a bug with spy. Spies can get backstab when he stand in front of you.

So, what you thingin about that?

 

[The S Inspector]

Not a bug, just a lag issue. As I'm in England I have a high ping on eGO servers, and I am often accused of hacking/glitching with frontstabs on people with lower ping. ON their screen it would show a spy knife them and they get backstabbed from the front. On my screen it shows me hit their side or their back. This is also noticable with other characters, especially snipers and melee attacks. Often you get sniped running into cover and you are behind the cover when he fires, yet you die. Often melee attackers hit you from a range further away than you would expect, as they are close enough but lag doesn't show it as so on your screen. Very annoying with engineers. Going back to sniper, often you will snipe another sniper, and you click your mouse, you hear the sound, yet they kill you. Once this happened and on the kill cam it showed my adversary blood all over his face, yet with full health. Don't mean to get all scientific on your ass, but it is pretty annoying, but practically unfixable.

 

[IrshCarBomb]

yup, until lag is done away with completely this will always be an issue.

 

[-V-]

You do realize that a spy can instant kill if he hits the top of the head, or sides right? Usually when I cannot backstab and someone is charging at me, I sidestep and get em in the shoulder, they usually think its the front stab. Or I can back stab, and they turn around, and the backstab finishes while they are facing me. Its not a bug.

 

[imported_Lawliet]

Yea the most common issue is when you start a backstab and they turnaround while you coming down with the knife..so yes, I guess my vote would go towards fun, just because it is not, not fun.

 

[pipcorona]

It's all about when the downstroke begins. If a spy gets behind you and starts to swing down the only way to avoid an instant kill is to get out of the range of the knife.

 

[xRomanticDeathx]

hope i wasnt the cause of this issue

 

[NeOfito]

^^ Romantic, you're the cause!!!

 

[RaiN]

I have noticed this as well as pyro insane long range fire. But both are probably lag and looks different on their side.

Thing that bugs me, is when I play spy and i start the stab and i see the backstab going down but they are out of range and i miss the stab all together. I could swear I am hugging them, yet i miss completely.

 

[bLackout {RD}]

Nope, I don't think it's a bug.

Yeah, The S Inspector right. It's a lag issue.

You can even 'Side'Stab em' up!

 

[Ephyu]

As someone mentioned earlier, it's all about when the swing starts. Backstabbing on TF2 isn't always about the knife hitting them in the back, it's a separate kind of attack. A sort of alternate fire. If you click while looking at someone's back, you'll start the backstab attack, which has a completely different animation (downward swing with the knife held pointing down) and timing. If they turn around during this, the "backstab" still comes down and hits them.

However, just because you do a "normal" attack doesn't mean you won't backstab. A normal attack (sideways swipe) actually hitting the back has the same instant-kill effect.

I've actually experimented with this on people, and if you really wanted to, you could get interesting effects out of this. Say you're in a sniper nest, about to stab a sniper in the back, and a soldier turns the corner and comes at you. Start your swing at the sniper's back, and during the longer animation for the backstab, turn toward the soldier. Then repeat on the sniper.

...Would this be against server rules, actually? It's not really a glitch, I don't think, and actually would take a bit of skill to pull off.

 

[OfficerFriendly]

Lag is always an issue but it is hard to judge due to ping. I have had plenty of times where I will look like I am right on top of someone as a pyro but they never seem to light on fire or they light up for all of 2 seconds while I seem to stay on fire forever. It doesn't matter what game you play there is an issue but all in all it does suck some of the fun out if it is ongoing.

 

[Volcom]

Well i have a 160-180 ping and when im running from a spy (SPY on SPY) and im running backwards and he COMPLETELY stabbs me in the front how do i die even with full health!!

 

[Ephyu]

[quote1199250946=Volcom]
Well i have a 160-180 ping and when im running from a spy (SPY on SPY) and im running backwards and he COMPLETELY stabbs me in the front how do i die even with full health!!
[/quote1199250946]
Crit to the face?
And a 180 ping leaves a lot of room for error, you could've just flicked your mouse around to look in front of you for a second and given him an ample opporotunity to "charge" a backstab (see above), which would probably hit while you were facing him on your screen.

 

[xRomanticDeathx]

there sometimes that i just stand i front of someone that afk and i stand IN FRONT of him and somehow i still get a backstab, its a bug

 

[OfficerFriendly]

It is possible that it is a bug, for some reason everytime I check the list of fixes in the patch I always see something for the spy class.

 

[Die Auslese]

I've never liked the spy, I have the lowest playing time, the lowest scores, etc, and I get killed by them ALOT! I vote NO becuase the spy is (always will be) my great equalizer, in other words I HATE SPIES! However I think the inssue is lag, since hits are determined by your input, the spies input, and the calculation of the server, any variations in times (lag) can/could drasically alter the apperance of something, in this case a backstab from a SPY!!!

 

[xRomanticDeathx]

[quote1199309870=Die Auslese]
I HATE SPIES![/quote1199309870]

You just made my list...

 

[Die Auslese]

[quote1199341032=xRomanticDeathx]
[quote1199309870=Die Auslese]
I HATE SPIES![/quote1199309870]

You just made my list...
[/quote1199341032]
I made your list, list of what? I get killed by them often, and I suck as them, whats left to say.

 

[bLackout {RD}]

[quote1199342085=Die Auslese]
[quote1199341032=xRomanticDeathx]
[quote1199309870=Die Auslese]
I HATE SPIES![/quote1199309870]

You just made my list...
[/quote1199341032]
I made your list, list of what? I get killed by them often, and I suck as them, whats left to say.
[/quote1199342085]

Uh-oh..
Your on his list..

Tsk..Tsk..Tsk..