eGo Auto Balance UGH ...

Puke-N-Snot

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Please, please please change your Auto Balance system to something less ridiculous. Of all the servers I frequent eGO's AB is the only 1 that works in such an insane way.
AB a player with less then a minute to go (come on what good does that do beside anger players.

AB should only be done at the beginning of a round after a round has been played. Or if multiple players leave during mid match.

I only play on your servers because there's a few people that seem to only play eGo servers whom I like to play with/against, but I (and others) have just about had my fill of your AB system.

Thanks for listening
 
If there are two less people on one team, then the first one that dies will be switched. How's that unfair? Or should that team stay with the disadvantage of having less players. Either way autobalance is a necessary evil
 
I'd rather have auto-balance occur when one team is at a severe disadvantage as opposed to after a round is finished.

Yea, it sucks that sometimes you get placed on the losing team mid-match, but that's something that everybody has to deal with at least once.

I don't think there's a good way to improve upon it without causing a detrimental effect somewhere.
 
I'd like to say two things:

1. eGO.

2. I have to agree. Whether the team is at a disadvantage or not, I have very rarely seen an autobalance within the last minute or so actually turn a game around. It's even more irritating when it happens in the last 15 seconds. This has happened to me. I'll defend with everything I can, picking medics, destroying teleporters, etc, then get autobalanced just as the game ends.

That's ANNOYING.

So yeah, I'm also lobbying for a change to the autobalance.
 
If there are two less people on one team, then the first one that dies will be switched. How's that unfair? Or should that team stay with the disadvantage of having less players. Either way autobalance is a necessary evil

He isn't complaining about auto balance being unfair. It's the way it done on the servers that's the problem. It's just frustrating that it switches people right before the game is over. This has happened to me many times also, I have done very well only to get auto balanced to the losing team right before winning. It always makes me sad to see anyone get MVP on a team they literally did nothing on because of the auto balance.
 
I agree on this as well. I know I have been auto-balanced so close to the end that I don't even get to respawn.
 
We are currently rewriting our configs for the plugin, and we will be testing them out in the next few days. Hopefully this will solve the problems you all have mentioned.
 
I don't really mind as I see it as more of a challenge. Though thats mostly because its usually my tele's that pumping in wave after wave of players against the losing team so when I switch suddenly they have to walk and because I already know who is playing what/what their attack pattern has been up to that point I can set up my buildings to counter and control that aspect of the battle. Then again I also like fighting at a disadvantage in general and will always join the losing side and even switch over from the wining side just to get that extra challenge and see if I can turn the tide.
 
I don't know how the autobalance system works entirely, but I believe that the AB before the round ends is due to people leaving and making an imbalance of two players or more. The game proceeds to switch one player over to the other team to make it even. I think it would help to make it the game wait a bit longer before switching people when it senses an imbalance. Also PLEASE make the teams scramble slightly more often.
 
I agree that the AB system is BS on eGO servers, but it's the same everywhere.
 
I don't really mind as I see it as more of a challenge. . . .

I totally agree with this. Sometimes, Auto-Balance can be pretty cool because it tests your ability to turn things around for the losing team or help continue pushing on the winning team after shortly being unwillingly tossed in to it.

That's just my opinion.

Still, you have to look at the AB system from a larger perspective. Sure, you may be a key force on your team (and I know you are), and you may have just been switched, but still, would you prefer 10v13? I know I wouldn't.
 
We are currently rewriting our configs for the plugin, and we will be testing them out in the next few days. Hopefully this will solve the problems you all have mentioned.

Wonderful news. The number of guests/regulars on our servers who rage out because of AB switching them well into a round is high (at least it feels like a common issue). I am one of them. I don't really care if people quit; the team I start a round with is the one I want to end the round with.

Some poor guy threw a nutty on Payload last night after busting himself to hold off Blue for about 15 minutes and then getting switched over with about 30 seconds to go on the last point. I gently warned him but really all the sympathy in the world to him. Anyway, it's good to know a change is happening!

I totally agree with this. Sometimes, Auto-Balance can be pretty cool because it tests your ability to turn things around for the losing team or help continue pushing on the winning team after shortly being unwillingly tossed in to it.

That's just my opinion.

Still, you have to look at the AB system from a larger perspective. Sure, you may be a key force on your team (and I know you are), and you may have just been switched, but still, would you prefer 10v13? I know I wouldn't.

I would prefer that since it would just be 10v12 until the end of the round at which point the teams would be leveled off. And of course, you can always change yourself over to the other team voluntarily if turning around the fight is your thing. =P
 
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All complaints about last second balances.
Just saying, we will tweak it so that you won't be autobalanced within a certain time before the round ends, but that would only be time-wise. If the objective is being completed much sooner than the timer runs out, we can't stop a "last second" autobalance unless autobalance is restricted to before and after rounds, which defeats the purpose of autobalance.

AB should only be done at the beginning of a round after a round has been played. Or if multiple players leave during mid match.
You only get autobalanced if the teams are unbalanced, which implies at least two people left one team. So I don't understand what the problem is. Autobalance does happen if multiple players during mid match.


I have been a "victim" of the last second autobalance many many times. Honestly, it's been a long time since I really cared. When I get autobalanced, I just laugh. I enjoy winning, but if I lose because of autobalance, I don't mind. Bad luck to me, but hey, my old team still won! And one time I was autobalanced to the winning team right before the game ended. Now that was really funny.

I would prefer that since it would just be 10v12 until the end of the round at which point the teams would be leveled off. And of course, you can always change yourself over to the other team voluntarily if turning around the fight is your thing. =P
I know I wouldn't prefer 10v12 if it happens mid-match where there is still let's say 10 minutes to defend. Two people can really make a difference, and it is likely the team of 10 players will keep losing players.

And turning around the fight is fun, even if it doesn't work half the time. :D
 
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I don't think most of us mind getting switched, we just hate getting switched when there is literally nothing you can do before the match ends.
 
Please, please please change your Auto Balance system to something less ridiculous. Of all the servers I frequent eGO's AB is the only 1 that works in such an insane way.
AB a player with less then a minute to go (come on what good does that do beside anger players.

AB should only be done at the beginning of a round after a round has been played. Or if multiple players leave during mid match.

I only play on your servers because there's a few people that seem to only play eGo servers whom I like to play with/against, but I (and others) have just about had my fill of your AB system.

Thanks for listening

Hey there Puke-N-Snot this was an issue brought up in our last admin meeting and we all agreed it needed to be changed. I believe leadership is going to be putting the new AB configs in soon, so hopefully we will see a change.
 
I don't think most of us mind getting switched, we just hate getting switched when there is literally nothing you can do before the match ends.

This is true, the round is about to end and there goes the AB, off to red you go and blue comes to humiliate without anyway to defend and sometimes after you put soo much hard work to advance (its happened to me a handful of times in the 7 months so not too bad). I don't think there is much that COULD be done in this instance, i dont know maybe write in something in the config like no autobalance at set time remaining? I don't know how it all works as far as script editing and its limitations.

I'd like to see some change, but it appears after much research all of these different issues have been brought up in the past. I am hopeful that what jhnsn mentioned above comes to fruition and brings much needed change to our servers. Leadership has listened at least and it's good to have reassurance.

Other than that, like kazoo said, best just to laugh it off and I recommend going to seek revenge when the next round starts and make them pay dearly, i might fail but I'll go down trying to get my vengeance :D
 
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Are you sure you were on one of our servers? Because with the current config values you can only be balanced once every 10 minutes.

Something may have bugged then because while 13 times might be slightly exaggerated, I know I was on and saw him get team-swapped at least 5 times in less than 10 minutes. I remember because I joked that the server was "playing ping-pong" with him. I remember thinking it was strange that it did that. We were on 24/7 Dustbowl.
 
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