jail and high school rant(mostly jail)

[Eric]

for some reason it seems like nobody plays css anymore highschool is mostly empty all the time jail is the same except for some nights and office and dust i only usually see pups on the servers. what happened? it seems like everybody gave up on those servers. i remember when jail was full all the time and high school there was a waiting list to get on server. highschool used to be so popular now all i see is admin global chat come fill high school and sometimes admins don't go to seed it maybe a couple but thats it. jail is even worse because only a couple people say come fill jail and there the usually the people that only play jail. jail and high school all of a sudden crashed in people on it. its no fun playing with the same people over and over again. we need to help these servers out b4 everybody stops playing them and i'm probable not the only one that thinks this. jail and high school are what got my into eGO and now i have to ask people online is anybody on those servers and when they say no im very sad and disappointed. the time when jail and high school needs to be filled all the time should come back. i say for jail keep the rep, and random awards every 5 rounds, but remove skins and credits. for high school just have more people playing it. i would like to be able to say "man i had a fun night playing jail" again not "jail is so dead, this warden is a fail". jail needs to return detours and delays to be said and not implied so there are more rebels wardens should be more specific and need to return STs be like freedays when STs cant be given to the same person every round because then some pubs wont get the experience of what its like to be special and experience the map. trivia should come back just to find STs but only simple math trivia so people don't have to open a browser they can just use a calculator that is on phone. (cant control this one) but people that are in teamspeak shouldn't ghost. wardens need to be strict but not a dictator. seems like 1 warden can just make everybody leave and that just kills the server. advisors and up sometimes also kill the game or make it more fun depending on what they do. yes it is fun to make everybody into master chief and have a halo day or do an AVP day, but when they give out 5 awards to everybody at once it just kills the game because then every t can go invisible and just ruins the game. one game someone gave everybody 5 awards and everybody bought suicide bombs, that ruined the game because that was 5 rounds of no orders and people exploding. another time i just bought me master chief i was warden giving out orders all of a sudden everybodys master chief and i just wasted my award. warden should be with ts at all times should be enforced much more and giving orders. so many games ive been in lately wardens go off looking for rebelers and after i ask(since im only a G, and never taken AAT and JAT) can somebody warn so and so to be with ts at all times if im the only dead admin, or when a T has st and no ct doesnt watch the st, or when multiple ct's arent with Ts because there fooling around because either 1. there is nobody on server or 2. they are just trying to kill have fun, but if they wanna have fun do it near the Ts so if they rebel theres not only 1 ct (aka the warden) by himself. i also remember warden being fought over every round (!w plugin great kills off mic spam) now its always the same warden but the !w needs to be on rotate so same person doesnt get warden every round. the gunplant text that just came on the server is also good, tells everybody on server who gun planted who. sorry for this being so long and mostly about jail and not so much high school but this is just my opinion and my feelings only. if you would like to add on go ahead but i really would like to see a difference in this servers so we can get them higher on the ratings again.

Your good neighbor,
jake from state farm​

 

[kilroyy-]

can i have a tldr?

 

[Eric]

tldr?

 

[NMsniper]

Alright, next time you make a post, try to space it out more so I can read it better.

Now for a few of your points you are talking about that I was able to read.

jail needs to return detours and delays to be said and not implied so there are more rebels

We had this, people complained, we changed it back to being implied, seems like its still being complained. In my personal opinion jail rules are fine as they are.

wardens should be more specific and need to return STs be like freedays when STs cant be given to the same person every round because then some pubs wont get the experience of what its like to be special and experience the map.

I think I understand this a little more, my guess is you want STs to be given out the same person but only limited like freedays, for example BOB cant get st until 4 rounds have passed. Obviously this is hard to track every single person. Thats my only issue with it, for now though I dont see a problem with our current rule

"Special treatment may be given multiple times per map as long as it is not abused."

Giving ST every single round to same person = bad
Giving ST to same person once and then 5 rounds later again = perfectly acceptable

wardens need to be strict but not a dictator. seems like 1 warden can just make everybody leave and that just kills the server.

Everybody wardens differently, someone may be strict while another person can be very nice fellow. We cant force someone to act a certain way as warden because as you may find it fun, many other people will find it annoying.

advisors and up sometimes also kill the game or make it more fun depending on what they do. yes it is fun to make everybody into master chief and have a halo day or do an AVP day, but when they give out 5 awards to everybody at once it just kills the game because then every t can go invisible and just ruins the game. one game someone gave everybody 5 awards and everybody bought suicide bombs, that ruined the game because that was 5 rounds of no orders and people exploding.

I was not there for this so I honestly cant say much about this. Basically as you stated it does make it fun sometimes, but also kills it at the same time. Im sorry that you found it not fun at all and if you ever have a problem with it feel free to PM me about it, but as advisors we try to make the game as fun as possible for our players. Sometimes jail gets boring to a point where we try to experiment and add something in the game that doesnt normally happen, for example give everyone those free credits to change up the map a bit.

warden should be with ts at all times should be enforced much more and giving orders.

Warden is usually with the ts at all times as far as I know, but you want them to be strict but not a dictator as stated above. Now you want them to enforce a lot more than normal? I find this actually confusing.

so many games ive been in lately wardens go off looking for rebelers and after i ask(since im only a G, and never taken AAT and JAT) can somebody warn so and so to be with ts at all times if im the only dead admin, or when a T has st and no ct doesnt watch the st, or when multiple ct's arent with Ts because there fooling around because either

I can understand where you are getting at when they go out to look for rebels, but at the same time warden may have been giving orders. You didnt leave much info on what actually happend so I cant help you much here.
For the admin part of your rant, just because you are a G doesnt mean you dont admin , at least thats what Im getting from , you still can warn players. 90% of the time on jail you will find a O ranked admin who has been here longer that can help you out. If you honestly dont know what to do still you can always take another admin training course OR add an AT on to your friends list. We also have an admin Q&A HERE for any questions you may have.

also remember warden being fought over every round (!w plugin great kills off mic spam) now its always the same warden but the !w needs to be on rotate so same person doesnt get warden every round.

This idea isnt so bad, and I believed we talked about it before in our jail discussion a while back. I can always get with christy to see if we can add something like this and go from there, but theres no need to make a rant about it without dropboxing an idea you may have.

but i really would like to see a difference in this servers so we can get them higher on the ratings again.

Now this is probably the best thing I could read out of everything you typed. Alright, you want to see a difference in the servers to get them high in the rankings, I get that. But you can be that difference, dont think everything has to be done for you.

Bottom line is that we get that you have issues with jail and high school, and that you even want to make it better. But making a rant like this without spacing it out and no topics to back it up makes it hard on us to understand what you want.
I'm going to go ahead and lock this thread only because I dont need to see another thread about 50 things we need to change about our servers. For now, if you have any other problems suggestions or concerns about our servers, feel free to hit me up on the forums by sending a pm or just talking to me on team speak ( Or any other CS advisor/dl/council etc ) I am usually on all the time there.