Mac Vs PC

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I have to preface this by saying I love Macs and have been using them since I was a kid. But, then again I own 3 computers - one of which is my gaming PC.

Nonetheless, I found this to be pretty freakin funny.

http://mvpc.ytmnd.com/
 
Hahah Flippy you are on a roll today :P My old man still uses his C64. It's hilarious. He has a stockpile of antiquated technology that would blow your mind, and its funny because he's not a tech or anything; he just retired last year but he's been a roofer his entire life.
 
meh...I'll remain a mac fan til the end! Even though I can't play games such as TF2 on it. but still.
 
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Commodore 64 FTW!

http://www.c64web.com/
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Wow, I'll be that it would be really easy to perform a DOS attack against that server. ;)

Actually, when it comes to the Mac Vs PC argument, I tend to like both and I think that they both have their benefits and drawbacks. Due to the cost involved, I've only recently began actively and routinely using a Mac since I have to support them at my new job. And I love them, but probably not for the same reasons that everybody else loves them. For me, what Mac brings is an operating system with a functional GUI, major software and hardware support, but with UNIX style underpinnings.

As an old Linux user, I love the fact that I can get to a command prompt in MacOS these days and use the (much more powerful than Windows) *nix standard commands. Boss wants a listing of all directories down from a specific level? No problem, open up a Terminal, type "ls -lAR|grep dr>output1.txt", and email the .txt file to him. Oh wait, he wants to know what hasn't been copied from that directory to the external hard drive? No problem. "diff -y output1.txt <(ls -lAR|grep dr)>diff.txt" and then email the diff.txt to him. You can't easily do stuff like that with the built-in command line for Windows.

Actually, MacOS really reminds me of [link=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeOS]BeOS[/link] sometimes. In fact, Scot Hacker, a noted developer in the BeOS community, describes the MacOS and BeOS comparison better than I can: http://www.birdhouse.org/macos/beos_osx/

Now I want to go home, fire up my old BeOS system, and host my own BeOS fan site. :)
 
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As an old Linux user, I love the fact that I can get to a command prompt in MacOS these days and use the (much more powerful than Windows) *nix standard commands. Boss wants a listing of all directories down from a specific level? No problem, open up a Terminal, type "ls -lAR|grep dr>output1.txt", and email the .txt file to him. Oh wait, he wants to know what hasn't been copied from that directory to the external hard drive? No problem. "diff -y output1.txt <(ls -lAR|grep dr)>diff.txt" and then email the diff.txt to him. You can't easily do stuff like that with the built-in command line for Windows.
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That's part of the reason that Microsoft developed Windows Powershell, although it's more to compete with *NIX as opposed to Mac. I totally agree that the FreeBSD core of MacOS is a boon, and is probably the only reason I was able to use it for a year.

See, I decided that I was prejudiced against Apple, and needed to get experience in order to overcome that. I used a Macintosh computer for a year to do my work, and let my Win machine sit idle on a shelf.

After a year, I came to the following conclusion. If you want the power of Linux, use Linux. "It just works" is a load of horse droppings. As is the case with both Microsoft and Apple, 90% of what is said about their operating systems is just marketing mumbo-jumbo. The big difference seems to be that the Apple community (in general, so don't kill me) drinks the kool-aid that much faster.

Apple, like Microsoft, steals ideas and claims they're original. They say that MacOS is easier to use, and it is, if all you've ever used is MacOS. As someone who started on the Commodore VIC20 and worked my way through Windows to Linux and then to Mac, I can tell you that nothing is inherently easy to use, and MacOS is just as user-unfriendly as anything else.

Okay, I need to step back from the keyboard. This is a topic that I could go on about for days, because it's always annoyed me. I'm done now.
 
Seriously... I think that Mac Vs PC arguements should fall under the 'No Politics' rule... I've seen numerous times more arguements springing up due to this than anything political!
 
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As an old Linux user, I love the fact that I can get to a command prompt in MacOS these days and use the (much more powerful than Windows) *nix standard commands. Boss wants a listing of all directories down from a specific level? No problem, open up a Terminal, type "ls -lAR|grep dr>output1.txt", and email the .txt file to him. Oh wait, he wants to know what hasn't been copied from that directory to the external hard drive? No problem. "diff -y output1.txt <(ls -lAR|grep dr)>diff.txt" and then email the diff.txt to him. You can't easily do stuff like that with the built-in command line for Windows.
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That's part of the reason that Microsoft developed Windows Powershell, although it's more to compete with *NIX as opposed to Mac. I totally agree that the FreeBSD core of MacOS is a boon, and is probably the only reason I was able to use it for a year.

See, I decided that I was prejudiced against Apple, and needed to get experience in order to overcome that. I used a Macintosh computer for a year to do my work, and let my Win machine sit idle on a shelf.

After a year, I came to the following conclusion. If you want the power of Linux, use Linux. "It just works" is a load of horse droppings. As is the case with both Microsoft and Apple, 90% of what is said about their operating systems is just marketing mumbo-jumbo. The big difference seems to be that the Apple community (in general, so don't kill me) drinks the kool-aid that much faster.

Apple, like Microsoft, steals ideas and claims they're original. They say that MacOS is easier to use, and it is, if all you've ever used is MacOS. As someone who started on the Commodore VIC20 and worked my way through Windows to Linux and then to Mac, I can tell you that nothing is inherently easy to use, and MacOS is just as user-unfriendly as anything else.

Okay, I need to step back from the keyboard. This is a topic that I could go on about for days, because it's always annoyed me. I'm done now.
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LOL. As I see it, MacOS only has two advantages over Linux. The first, is a very pretty, flashy GUI. I only consider this an advantage in marketing terms and nothing else. Because that's what a pretty GUI is there for: eye candy to attract users. While I'm sure there are window managers for Linux that can emulate the entire look and feel of a Mac, I have yet to see a single distro with an out of the box GUI as pretty and flashy as OSX's. Nevertheless, that's an advantage that can easily be overcome. The OS does provide tools that make some things, especially hardware management, easier, but some Linux distros are fast approaching Mac's ease of use. I sat my mom down in front of my Ubuntu box and she was surfing the net and checking her mail within minutes, but the coolest thing is that she was able to find the mouse sensitivity adjustment fairly easily in Ubuntu.

The other advantage Apple, and this is the big one, is their mass market support. Open Office is great, but it's not 110% MS Word compatible, and I have no idea what their Word 2007 support is like. And I don't think anybody's managed to write an Adobe CS3 style suite of apps for Linux yet. That makes a pretty big difference. That will be hard for linux to overcome that hurdle.

In the end, though, what people have to remember is that Apple is a very good marketing company. :)
 
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Seriously... I think that Mac Vs PC arguements should fall under the 'No Politics' rule... I've seen numerous times more arguements springing up due to this than anything political!


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Just wait until we start up with the EMACS vs VI debate. :)

(Only super computer geeks will probably know what I'm talking about here...)
 
I'm not actually saying PCs are better than Macs...trust me..I'm on a MacBook right now, have a 12'' Powerbook at home, own an iPod Touch and am the one person behind http://iphonegaming.com.

I've ALWAYS been a Mac guy..no doubt about that. Both OS/CPUs offer their highlights and drawback. I just found this to be hilarious.
 
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Just wait until we start up with the EMACS vs VI debate. :)

(Only super computer geeks will probably know what I'm talking about here...)
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EMACS!!! Actually, to tell the truth, I use them both, as well as nedit. I love nedit. Man, I need to put Linux back on my laptop.
 
I have an iMac that I use as a music stockpile. For $800 (with a student rebate) I got 80gb of storage space, wireless access, and Guitar Studio, plus I was able to put Word and such on it. I plug it into my home stereo for sound and I've got all my CD's on one database, which is very nice. Plus, I probably won't have to get a new one until that one implodes from over-use.

The upside to that is lets me use my gaming machine as just that, a dedicated gaming comp. However, if you can only go with one, I go with the Windows machine 10/10 UNLESSSSSS the only things you do are web-surfing, typing, and music-listening, and you don't know much about computers in general, as the MacOS just won't quit. I've had every program I was using go dead, and I was still able to "Apple out", shut them all down, and re-open them without restarting the comp.
 
A friend and former co-worker used to have an iMac that he hooked up to damn near everything in his house. It was his home stereo, center of the wireless network, development server (he used to ssh into it from work) ... they're capable machines, just not my cup of tea.

Although ... I'd like to experiment with Gentoo on one ...
 
lol that truly is the iMac. I definitely understand where you're coming from though; a Mac really is more of a machine than a computer and if you know about computers, it's all too easy to see the shortcomings of that platform. Just wait 'till you can scoop one up on eBay for $200 or so. It's like buying a Chevy Nova; if you can't get it to do what you want it to do, you can always smash it for fun :)
 

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