Rate on Css servers

[TaZ]

Hi, I have a question for the css servers.
I have built and maintained 3 servers over a course of 10 yrs. From making skins to setting servers up. I can tell u I agree its a pain. My question is why is the server forcing the rate of 198,000?
Old school Css pre orange box we had a true 100 tick server it was always advised to run rates in range of 20,000 min and 100,000 max. Why would Ego set rate to 198,000?
This will cause more shot registration problems for players more then it will help.
The main reason is most people play on laptops and pc that are not gaming material.
The rate range is there to help all players for what meets there needs.
cal and cevo played on 66 66 100.000 . its been so long it might even been 99 99 100.000. Shot reg is caused by server resources being used. such things like rank ,green chat and mods like !up Taz. I also strongly feel if u restricted the para the load on the server would be better and restrict smokes if u really want to increase reg. I can tell u from experience and I have used NFO for many years a rate of 198,000 is not going to help the server.
Also i'm sure u know this but the more restarts u do the better the server runs. every person who joins the server a log is created and if u do not restart the server the log remains open. I would love to help if u guys need any. I love playing here and I hope you guys don't take this the wrong way. Taz

 

[TaZ]

So today I gave Italy a try with 7 players on the server and the reg is terrible . (Ego)ez shot me point blank w ak in the back and I had 100 hp after I killed him. Css is not a spray and play game . Server Rates need to be fixed. The more player the more strain on the server. Dust 2 has 20 to 40 players on a regular basis .itally had 7 and the reg is terrible!!

 

[Ubermaniac]

Tell you what TaZ... You can make a dropbox about the server issues here, in order to try and make the servers better.

 

[RedDragonKnight]

I really don't see how rates are a problem when the server suffers no loss and max 10 choke outside the start of the round.

 

[TaZ]

Red just because your pc doesn't have loss doesn't mean someone else's doesn't . Your pc might be newer but in few years it wont be. But adjusting your rate allows your pc to run smooth. Css might be the olnly FPS game that allows you to manually adjust your rates.
rates have always been a big thing with CSS since it came out.
Guide on rates
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=123868866

The main reason for rates is people from all over the world play on server in set location and if your pc or connection isn't as good as others you cant set rate accordingly, Cal players use to bind rates and change on the go in matches. Now you have to move to specs to change ur rates.
My point i'm making is why force it when you can still use the high and low rates. sv_maxrate 100,000
sv_minirate 20000 This meets all need of all players all over the world.

 

[RedDragonKnight]

Red just because your pc doesn't have loss doesn't mean someone else's doesn't . Your pc might be newer but in few years it wont be.

Even if I didn't upgrade any parts, my system would still be able to run newer games on max settings for a few years to come. Not that it has anything to do with rates, but thanks for the concern.

Guide on rates
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=123868866

Rates are forced high as if you allow low rates while on a 64 slot server, the clients with lower rates aren't going to be able to keep up with the data being received and are going to choke. The default is 80k, so there is literally zero reason to set the rate lower than that unless you have a 56k modem, and at that point why are you even playing cs.

quoted straight from the guide you linked me.

The 'rate' cvar for example is only a LIMIT, you can set it as high as 9999999 to prevent choke and loss completely - CSS WILL NOT USE 9999999 BANDWITH, IT IS ONLY A *LIMIT*, a lot of people do not understand this! sv_maxrate 30000 is actually way too low nowadays.

 

[TaZ]

Red again you are stuck on your pc. The game isn't your pc and mine. The game is players from all over the world. When I ran the 44 man server I had the default was not 80,000. Also I have used high speed internet for many years playing css and I never had choke or loss.Maybe for 64 ,man server it is. However Ego has been around a long time and never forced the rate. So unless CSS server host changed something its the same CSS config in server CFG not player.

 

[sweg]

i dont know about you but if harambe was still around....

 

[TaZ]

I'm not trying to cause trouble so u know . I donated money here because I like the ego servers and people . I have been playing CSs way to long and when I see people on the server spraying someone w out a kill or at times any damage . So I'm just looking for reasons . I think all input is important .

 

[RedDragonKnight]

Red again you are stuck on your pc.

And you're stuck on providing 0 evidence to back your claim after being proven wrong by your own source.

 

[TaZ]

Red I am looking for a way that benefits all players not just myself. I have a lot of server side stuff experience and asked a question. I base my info on playing 4000 hours. I know when my rates were lower and not forced I could get 40 kills. With my rate forced I can't hit people standing in front of me. So if you know something I don't then id love to hear.
Like I said I watch over the last week players point blank w a para shoot players in the back and no reg at all.. So its not just me..

 

[- Sora -]

I agree with TAZ, for a couple of days to a week now i've been having a hard time in the game. some thing really changed. its hard to explain, but something really changed in the server. some of my friends in the server claims that the server changed location, thus also the change of rate. im not really a techy guy. others claim their game got smoother, others vice versa.

i dont really have any evidence here. its really jsut my own personally experience with the server.

 

[TaZ]

I use to get 40 kills a lot and now i'm lucky if i get 15. Maybe its time for a new PC