[poll] CONVOY V1 VS. V2

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As some of you may have noticed, the convoy server was switched to convoy v2 around sometime yesterday (that is when i first noticed it). I'm just tryin to get a feel to see if you guys like convoy 1 or 2 better.

personally, i prefer version 1; i feel the tweaks in version 2 really take away from the "mood" of the original convoy. The new and larger "middle area" makes the map more of a "push/struggle" map, which is very un-convoy. Convoy is all about those home-run hits and frantic getaways, not "sixteen people gather in one room and shoot at one doorway." Plus the launch ramp is just another way to kill yourself on a map where its easy to kill yourself. However, i do like the sniper screens in the spawn area, but thats it.

What do you guys think?
 
I think that V2 is a better map overall, fixing many of the problems of the original. Many people are change averse, but let's play this one for a while and see how it does.

As with most maps, it will come down to how full the server stays. Change usually brings an initial dip in visitors, but after that, we'll want to see how the map performs. If it does better than V1, it'll be permanent. If not, you'll probably see V1 back. In the mean time, play it for a while, get used to it and then make up your mind. You've pointed to some valid reasons for your preference, but style of play will also evolve as people get used to the map.
 
If we had a vote i'm sure that i'd vote to remove this server all together if it were to stay this version. really version 2 takes all the worse qualities from the original version 2 and puts them in a neat little pile and throws them at us...
And i've been watching the server from a safe distance and i see that, yes, the map isn't empty but in general i doesn't tend to stay filled. When the map changed over i heard something inside me snap... i wanted to cry because i just lost my favorite server.
I do have a map suggestion... may be we could replace this *cough* gem *cough* with toy fort, just a constructive thought.
 
Toy Fort is another big love or hate map (I hate it--you can spawn camp from on top of the beds and destroy any fair chance of playing the game).

Replacing the map is indeed one of the current options in play.
 
I voted for the third option, and that's an honest opinion, but I understand if people like convoy.
 
Booster, it all depends. We kept V1 pretty full most of the time, but some people are getting tired of it. We may end up trying more maps before we decide on what's going to stick around.
 
Now, while v2 does have a scant few things I like (more sniper cover being the most significant, but that's just because I hate snipers :P ), v1, to me, is the superior of the two. The placement of the middle bridge takes almost all the focus off the back end of the trains; it's now reduced to sniper campouts and being an alternate route for scouts that want to avoid all the chaos in the center. Secondly, those jump pads are horribly broken. I do like the idea of them, but they require some serious tweaking. Most of the time it'll fling me across and I'll drop right behind one of those sheets of metal, but sometimes it'll throw me to where I just barely catch the edge of the train. On occasion, though, it will decide to launch me a mile up into the air, which makes for about 4 seconds of prime sniper vulnerability, coupled with a crushing landing that assures I'm not going in with full health.

Now, I'm all for the new bridge style. I like, quite much, how it's designed. However, its placement, coupled with the big open areas inside at either end, just takes convoy and fundamentally alters it to something else. My suggestion? Move the bridge back, closer to the end, and tie it in at the end of the corridors inside. Leave the sniper cover. Take out the jump pads and put the old top bridge back in, or tweak them to where they're not so suicide-prone.
 
Goldrush is coming out soon so instead of taking one of the real maps off of rotation you could sub out convoy
 
I Love Convoy. Its all I play really.

I prefer V.1 over V.2 as well. You get more variations of attack that way.

I know allot of people cant stand the snipers on that map but they are so easy to flame too. Enough of that changes the character choices people make.

Put it back to V.1. Thats my vote anyway.

ShohNuff
 
Is there any possible way we could nab the v1 .vmf and build it to our own standards? /end dreaming.

I'll look around and see if I can find v1.5. Would the council be adverse to putting it on the server and testing it for day? (If i could find it?)
 
I can't see why we wouldn't test a decent 1.5. Cave will be replaced by Goldrush when it comes out, as the maps are supposed to bear resemblance to each other.

We were considering Black Mesa for the Convoy server, too. We'll have to scrim more on that one and see how people like it.
 
I definately don't want convoy replaced, but as for the version, it doesn't much matter to me.
 
I liked the version 2 beta, because on Version 1 I max 25 frames per second while on 2 beta I managed ~100 :v
I'd assume I'd get similar results on the official 2.
 
Please Please Please go back to Version 1 - Much better

It has something for everyone

The Engys become very valuable especially if pushing forward - making defending the top rocket and top intel room a must
The Demos .....even tho SNOOD hates em are super valuable
The Snipers have fun and telling team where the other snipes are then watching them drop rules

The dropped Intel outside the room is always more accessible for pick ups
Every class had more of a chance to take the intel all the way home - instead of having a boondoggle clusterthingy in the middle big room now.

Bring back Version 1 Please
 
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Booster, it all depends. We kept V1 pretty full most of the time, but some people are getting tired of it. We may end up trying more maps before we decide on what's going to stick around.
[/quote1208564085]No, convoy's cool. It's good people like it. Like you said, people like it or hate it. I'm just one of the latter for Convoy, simply because people love to go sniper.

I dislike Snipers, Snipers love Convoy, therefore, I dislike Convoy. :P
 
Gentlemen,
This is my first post here and if Convoy 1 is replaced, in all likely hood, this will be my last post also.

I have been playing on your Convoy 1 server now for almost 3 months. I LOVE IT.

Why?

Convoy is a far superior map and the fact is, you guys were the ONLY folks running it 24/7

Convoy 2 servers are a dime a dozen and they are never full at 3AM like your server is.

I discovered your clan BECAUSE of Convoy 1.

6 of the last 7 people to join my "friends" list were all ego guys I met on the Convoy 1 server.

4 of you have approached me to join your clan. Probably because I have been a constant fixture on your Convoy 1 server.

I can go right now and find 2 or 3 servers running Convoy 2...why are you trying to change something that has been VERY successful for you?

You found a niche and you don't even realize it.

Please don't ruin a good thing and please don't place too much faith in this poll. I would wager over 50% of the people that play on the Convoy 1 server never even come to this forum.

Heck I didn't ever come here until today when I discovered this horrible, horrible mistake.


My dad always told me, "Son, if it ain't broke, don't fix it"

The Convoy 1 server has been very popular......like I said, if I want a game at 3AM, lately I could join your server and it would be very full..sometimes 32 people at 3AM.....um, WOW.

Why o why mess with such a good thing.


PLEASE leave it Convoy 1
 
I prefer v2 because of the extra sniper cover. My major annoyance with v1 is how many people play sniper.

I was playing during a low population time and of 7 players on red we have 3 snipers, 2 engies, and 2 pyros. The 2 engies and 2 pyros were defending against an onslaught of blu and the snipers just kept sniping which didn't help us at all. One of the pyros did leave to try to get the enemy intel but after many failed attempts got frustrated and came back to play defense. I know this situation is rare. Even with more people there are still too many snipers and not enough people either going on the offensive or defending.

The extra sniper cover will make it less favorable for snipers which will make it more fun to play. On v1 I often get discouraged from playing offense and stick to defense because I keep getting picked off before I reach the other side. After 2 or 3 tries I go back to play defense. I even stay below but still manage to get picked off.

With v2 it's tougher to get the intel which makes it more of a challenge. You either have to go the long way around the back or the short way through the lower tunnel but you'll run into a bunch of enemies.
 
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Gentlemen,
This is my first post here and if Convoy 1 is replaced, in all likely hood, this will be my last post also.

I have been playing on your Convoy 1 server now for almost 3 months. I LOVE IT.

Why?

Convoy is a far superior map and the fact is, you guys were the ONLY folks running it 24/7

Convoy 2 servers are a dime a dozen and they are never full at 3AM like your server is.

I discovered your clan BECAUSE of Convoy 1.

6 of the last 7 people to join my "friends" list were all ego guys I met on the Convoy 1 server.

4 of you have approached me to join your clan. Probably because I have been a constant fixture on your Convoy 1 server.

I can go right now and find 2 or 3 servers running Convoy 2...why are you trying to change something that has been VERY successful for you?

You found a niche and you don't even realize it.

Please don't ruin a good thing and please don't place too much faith in this poll. I would wager over 50% of the people that play on the Convoy 1 server never even come to this forum.

Heck I didn't ever come here until today when I discovered this horrible, horrible mistake.


My dad always told me, "Son, if it ain't broke, don't fix it"

The Convoy 1 server has been very popular......like I said, if I want a game at 3AM, lately I could join your server and it would be very full..sometimes 32 people at 3AM.....um, WOW.

Why o why mess with such a good thing.


PLEASE leave it Convoy 1







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*high five*

Thanks, and welcome to the forums Fug!
 
nr 2.. it has way more options ... its more fun.. i played it yesterday as a medic.. it was really fun
 
I miss your Convoy server. :(

Even though I prefer to play Demoman, I just can't get into the new GR map.

LOL..I hope you all grow tired of it soon and things go back to normal.
 
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