Remove jb_obama_v5_beta

[owen]

Please remove the jailbreak map jb_obama_v5_beta. It?s limiting, bland, and really unfun compared to the other maps. There?s not many games to play other than climb, invis climb, and jumprope, which are the only games anyone plays on the map. The LR room is good, but that?s one of its few pros. Off the top of my head I remember 4 of the normal games on it, which just shows how forgettable the map is. There?s better maps in the rotation and better maps being suggested that I doubt many people would miss it. The map is so empty that people consider the two climb difficulties as different games between rounds, for crying out loud.
Remove it.
Please.

 

[Corrupted]

JB_Obama.

Good and bad things about the map.
Good things:

• Lot's of ways to rebel.
• Some what good secrets.
• Quite a bit of games.
• Challenging for the CT's.

Bad things:

• Some bugs here and there.
• Challenging for the CT's.
• Poorly made.

List of Secrets:

• 2 Ways of doing Scout Secret.
• 2 Ways of doing Deathrun Secret.
• Code that activates small passages.
• Multiple ways to get into Vents.
• Armoury secret.
• Telleport ontop of maincells.
• Robama.
• Brobama.
• Instant 100 hp at medic.
• Booster.
• Awp secret.
• Multiple gun caches.
• Roulete hiding spot secret.
• Nom-Nom secret.
• Solitary secret.

List of Rebel ways:

• Opening cells with a decoy from in cells.
• Rushing vents.
• Rushing deahtrun.
• Rushing towards Maze/Pool area.
• Using the booster to your advantage and get guns located at main cells or use it to do a secret.
• Rushing armoury by yourself or with your fellow T's.
• Rushing CT/s or Warden.
• Sneaking away from Warden and CT's.
• Doing secrets.

List of games you can play as first game:

• The multiple climbs.
• Red light, Green light.
• Jumprope.
• Maze.

List of games you can play after the first game:

• Water float.
• The colour game.
• Guess the price.
• The drop down circle game.
• Spin the wheel.
• Roulete.
• Deathrun.
• Pool.
• Dropdown.
• Race.
• An opinionated game.

Advantages for the T's:

• Multiple choice of secrets.
• Lot's of gun caches.
• Once you're in vents many ways of rebeling.
• You're able to rush most areas because the CT's aren't staring at them, they either get distracted and look away or they just don't block them off.
• The booster creates multiple potentials for rebeling.

Disadvantages for the T's:

• Hard to rebel at main cells if the CT's are placed correctly.
• Entrances/Exit's where you can run away from the CT's are usually blocked off by CT's.
• CT's can counter most secrets.

Advantages for the CT's:

• Lot's of ways to counter rebelers.
• Easy way of controlling the T's at maincels.
• Vent's are easy to pursue if done correctly.
• Blocking off the exit from the race hall to soccer is extremely easy.

Disadvantages for the CT's:

• You're an easy target if you don't know some of the common secrets.
• You're an easy target if a T sneaks up on you.
• The hallways are really small, one mistake and you might die to the bomb.
• Invisible climb is really small, a winner with the bomb can blow everybody up.

Just wanted to put this in here. The bad side of obama, and the good side of it. I personally like obama and think it should stay. Some CT's don't know some secrets and so then they die, or they just don't know how to counter secrets, or strats. The map is poorly made in my opinion but it's still playable, you can see it by going to soccer and enabling clip brushes (r_drawclipbrushes 2), he has to put a bunch of clip brushes so nobody would go out of the map.

There?s not many games to play other than climb, invis climb, and jumprope, which are the only games anyone plays on the map.

Just because the wardens don't play other games doesn't mean the map is bad.

Off the top of my head I remember 4 of the normal games on it, which just shows how forgettable the map is.

The map is small. It's easy to remember, at least for me.

I doubt many people would miss it.

I would, I like the map. Others might not. Which is normal, not everyone likes something.

The map is so empty that people consider the two climb difficulties as different games between rounds, for crying out loud.

The map's not empty. It's just thing that people get confused. Obama has the most climbs, that's why people get mostly confused on that map. I personally like climb, it can be quite challenging at times.

There's other maps that are also bad, depending on how you look at it. Take vipinthemix for example, all people really play is breakfloor. It's just a more popular map then obama. But it's still a rebel map, just like obama.

 

[carter227]

Obama is good somewhat, CT's are just garbage. There's like 6 or 7 games you can do first, yet warden doesn't want to. Yes, there's a lot of secrets for T's and rebelling options. However, CT's have to communicate with each other. "2 CT's watch vents, 1 CT go to pool hallway," so on. When vent rule was changed people were saying "Communicate with your fellow T's," Why can't CT's communicate? It's easier, more simple, and less challenging.

 

[mom]

I haven't played on this JB server yet but I remember this map and I absolutely loved it!

 

[Power_Outlet]

I dislike it only off the narrow hallways that always lead to baiting, swaps, and arguments. Other than that its not the worse map. Far from the best as well.

 

[Mayhem Death]

After discussing with my team, we are going to leave it. There are too many players who enjoy obama to get rid of it. If the population shifts to not liking it, we will revisit this.


Cheers!