Counter-Strike Global Offensive Jail Server Receiving a gun while AFK frozen

darkfry

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Hello,

I am making this post because I noticed something on the jail server that I really have an issue with. It basically happens when someone is rebelling in stack and the warden makes the t's unstack and AFK freeze. I noticed how sometimes the rebeller dies and they pass their gun on to someone else, the t that receives it gets gunned down for putting it away for "not being afk frozen". This is an issue in my eyes because when you get passed a gun, you are holding it out by default without a choice, and if you have it out for 3 seconds or more you can get killed for that as well. I see it happen to other people, and it has happened to me multiple times. Shouldn't there be some type of rule in place where if you get passed a gun from a downed rebeller, you should have at least 3 seconds to put it away? Without fear of being shot for being AFK frozen? I'm just mentioning this because I literally just saw it happen to someone. A rebelling T got killed next to a player and passed the gun to him, and all that player did was try to get rid of the gun and put it away, and the admin shot him for it. When I tried to speak out against it, the admin said "well he was moving" and then muted me. I feel like a simple rule giving you 3 seconds to either toss the gun away or put it away would fix this issue.
 
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I'll say it again, any warden or guards using "AFK frozen" as an excuse to eliminate Ts that haven't done anything to rebel, are bad and should stop.
 
I'll say it again, any warden or guards using "AFK frozen" as an excuse to eliminate Ts that haven't done anything to rebel, are bad and should stop.

I agree, the worst part is I tried to stick up for the T that got free-killed and 1. no one listened to me. 2. I tried to address it in admin chat and was ignored. Which is why I am making a forums post about it, because I'll say it again that this is just straight up freekiling.
 
Imo thats the CTs fault. If you were following the command as a T and get passed a gun, you literally cannot do anything to stop it from happening. Killing them for that is kill hungry and imo freekill, but I would see what C CtrlAltDelicious says
 
Common sense goes a long way and is something that should be used when interpreting server rules or scenarios such as this. If a prisoner is involuntarily passed a gun because a nearby prisoner died then they should be given the opportunity to holster the weapon or contraband. Keep in mind that you can still comply to an AFK Freeze command while doing something like this.

While this suggestion is plausible, it isn't necessary. Our rules are meant to be vague as we do not need 100 pages of rules. This would simply detract from game play and I can guarantee you that nobody wants to sit there and read an encyclopedia of rules.
 
The T who got dropped the gun has the right to put it away, killing him/her would be seen as a trap command cause in the rules it states a T cannot hold contraband for longer than 3 seconds. If a CT did kill that T then it would be that he/she just wants kills and that should not be jailbreaks objective as a ct,he/she should be swapped for free kill.

This is my view but if an AT says otherwise I would listen to them.

Note: putting away the gun doesn't mean run around for a few seconds, it means simply staying in position and removing the gun
 
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Anytime i've seem this situation happen the warden usually has the T step away from stack and throw the weapon somewhere the other T's cant get it. Now if the T moves to pick up the weapon to try to get free ST or something the I will see them get killed, but I haven't personally seen someone get killed because they auto-pick up a weapon that fell while afk.
 
here are some things you can do next time it happens.

yell into your mic as loud as you can.
spam admin chat with "WTF FREEKILL" over and over.
have 4 beers, go to a strip club(call an uber, don't drink and drive like a dick), come back and try to play Jail again.

there's much more, but sometimes i do one or more of the above suggestions.
 
here are some things you can do next time it happens.

yell into your mic as loud as you can.
spam admin chat with "WTF FREEKILL" over and over.
have 4 beers, go to a strip club(call an uber, don't drink and drive like a dick), come back and try to play Jail again.

there's much more, but sometimes i do one or more of the above suggestions.

If I could both dislike this and thank this, I would
 

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