vipinthemix armoury glass window

[Corrupted]

I know there's been a post about this, either a bug report or suggestion but i cant find it and so ima make a suggestion.

Could we remove the glass window by armoury, it's one sided and it's just not fun. The secret is legit just pointless because of it, even if you go by all the ct's camping it, a ct can just go to the glass with m4/ak/awp and just easly kill u, while you cant, it's a one way.

 

[mary]

We should not be making VIP more t-sided than it already is because you got upset about how you died.

 

[Taco]

+1 1 way glass is stupid especially when it wasn't even bad before when it was bulletproof totally or completely penetrable.

 

[lily]

i don't agree with removing the window outright but putting it back to beung bulletproof would be great.

 

[mary]

i don't agree with removing the window outright but putting it back to beung bulletproof would be great.

I can get behind this at the very most, but complete removal would completely kill the CT side on that map.

 

[Corrupted]

i don't agree with removing the window outright but putting it back to beung bulletproof would be great.

no i just mean like removing the one way, as in just make it how it was before, you couldn't shoot through it at all.

 

[Corrupted]

We should not be making VIP more t-sided than it already is because you got upset about how you died.

It is T sided because a lot of ct's can't aim and don't know how to counter secrets. and no i'm not upset how i died, it's that the armoury secret is pointless if a ct can just walk up to the glass and one way you, which is the case

 

[kuantum]

I don't know, having bulletproof glass for a secret that's so easy for T's to get to feels unbalanced. CT's can't camp armory nor can they camp very important secrets like Kitchen where once you get in, you get a Mac-10 and a straight shot outside.

Yeah, people who main CT are probably not the best with aiming, but let's take the full bulletproof glass suggestion as reality. T's can get a straight shot into armory and can grab a gun without any trouble. Dumb T's would wait for them to push into armory and probably get merked. Smart T's can go into vents (which can lead anyone to any part of the map with not a lot of walking, which puts pressure on CT's to now pursue vents and exits.

The map is already T sided enough, bulletproof glass would cripple CT's and make the map unplayable as a CT.

 

[Kaise]

In my opinon, we should either go back to they way it was before (fully bulletproof) or make the glass non-bulletproof from both sides.

 

[owen]

just make the glass bulletproof again dude
+1
-map is super t sided already, cts can barely win games at this point
-there's no reason for it to be penetrable from one side only?? whats up with that seriously

 

[Corrupted]

I don't know, having bulletproof glass for a secret that's so easy for T's to get to feels unbalanced.

Yea but ct's can go up to the glass and legit stare it down, easly killing u.

CT's can't camp armory nor can they camp very important secrets like Kitchen where once you get in, you get a Mac-10 and a straight shot outside.

I mean technically they can, this is what's considered camping

Camping would be considered standing and blocking the entrance, exits or inside of the secret/vent

so they can stare it down from outside of armoury of be outside waiting for someone to exit through it, as long as they dont w8 there for like 1min

T's can get a straight shot into armory and can grab a gun without any trouble. Dumb T's would wait for them to push into armory and probably get merked. Smart T's can go into vents (which can lead anyone to any part of the map with walking, which puts pressure on not a lot oCT's to now pursue vents and exits.

They're not that dumb if they wait there for any ct's, if you have a decent aim you could kill the 2 or 3 ct's that actually pursue you then push out from armoury and kill warden. Ct's can counter this by either all pushing vents at the same time, staring down at the secret and killing the people who are in the armoury cell. The smart t's who go into vent can easly be countered if a ct goes into the box at maincells or wahtever its called, brakes the vent goes into the vent and as soon as u check the corner that's where u can find t's off guard looking from where they came from. They're rebelers, you have to deal with them if you're ct, you can't just play ct just to get kills by being cancer.

The map is already T sided enough, bulletproof glass would cripple CT's and make the map unplayable as a CT.

I'm preety sure this was unintentional, before this even happened it wasn't unplayable lol, ct's pursued rebelers and all that, it is t sided because of the secrets, but each secret has an easy counter where you can easy kill the rebeler if you place your self correctly and play it correctly, of course with a good aim.

 

[kuantum]

It's against the rules to camp secrets and armory. That's been established. I get that part of the gamemode is that CT's need to pursue rebellers, but having full bulletproof glass really limits CT's once T's break through the vents.

T's will naturally have a lot of people to rush vents. It takes around 4 left clicks to break those vents. Once they do, they are going to have a straight shot into armory, have at least 5 seconds to grab a gun and camp in the armory or take vents to wherever they want to go, and CT's have to pursue against a deathtrap of T's or T's who could be anywhere at any second. That's not fun for CT's.

Even the vent is sometimes open randomly after a special day (which needs to be patched). Having bulletproof glass would really make it foolproof for T's to rebel, which it's already easy enough on VIP.

 

[Taco]

In my opinon, we should either go back to they way it was before (fully bulletproof) or make the glass non-bulletproof from both sides.

On the first versions it was just normal glass and the only problem was on hns when all the cts would get shot through the glass

 

[Corrupted]

It's against the rules to camp secrets and armory. That's been established. I get that part of the gamemode is that CT's need to pursue rebellers, but having full bulletproof glass really limits CT's once T's break through the vents.

It's not camping if you stare it down. It doesn't, you have soo many ways to pursue them, through vents, the teleport, or the exit of armoury, it's their fault if they let t's go in there, u can legit stare it down from soo many ways. The glass is one sided, they legit can just aim though the glass and not get worried about getting killed.

T's will naturally have a lot of people to rush vents. It takes around 4 left clicks to break those vents. Once they do, they are going to have a straight shot into armory, have at least 5 seconds to grab a gun and camp in the armory or take vents to wherever they want to go, and CT's have to pursue against a deathtrap of T's or T's who could be anywhere at any second. That's not fun for CT's.

Not true. Usually 2-3 t's, 5 at max tbh, and it doesntt take 4 left clicks, it's not a deathtrap lol, you have equal ****ing chances, its not like they're behind a ****ing one way see through glass or if they have aimbot, they usually die because they're trash. You're ideal system for ct's is so they can be cancer get kills and be happy, there's going to be rebelers no matter what, either it's fun or not you have to pursue them, there's rules for ct's and you should obey them. Also with the vents, I already said that you can EASLY counter that. 99% of the secrets have a counter where you can kill most of the t's in there.

Even the vent is sometimes open randomly after a special day (which needs to be patched). Having bulletproof glass would really make it foolproof for T's to rebel, which it's already easy enough on VIP.

Yes so because of that bug we should definetly keep this unintentional bug that makes it super easy for ct's to kill rebelers. Ct's have an advantage, they have a gun and t's do not, that should be enough to kill rebelers, if they let someone get into armoury that's their fault, they shouldn't be able to yet be able to one way them in armoury.

 

[Kachowski]

+1 its a bit annoying especially since the cts have a direct access to armory on the cat walk and there is no need for the window to be a one-way. The cts don't need the one way and it often leads to arguments of camping. Returning it would be a good fix.