GTAV Cop reform

[TLG]

Cops can survive 3 - 5 shotgun shots at point blank and not even flinch, they also get MK2 weapons which aren't available on the black market which makes no sense, cops should have a realistic amount of armour so a 1 - 2 shots from a pistol can make it pointless and other weapons above that obviously make it useless so they aren't practically invisible, an explosion can kill them but that seems about it

 

[Jolly]

Let me explain. Cops can survive as many gunshots as anybody else wearing body armor on the server. 1 shot to the head kills them like anybody else, and your point about shotguns doesn't work. Shotguns are incredibly inconsistent, sometimes taking 5 shots or 1, because the spread is everywhere.

tl;dr Cops are like everybody else, we don't give them super powers. They wear the same armor players can get.

 

[Jay]

Hello,

So what exactly are you suggesting? From what I am understanding from this post is that you are just making a basic complaint about how the cops are "OP" because of a weapon they have that civs cant get, and the fact that they have armor. Even tho civ's can get the same amount of armor, and they can also have other AR's that cop's cant have or use. And the MK2 weapons don't have much of a difference between the normal weapons either way.

 

[Alex]

So, I got curious a while ago and did some testing of my own. What Jolly and Jay have said is exactly correct. I tested out the damage with both the Carbine Rifle and the Carbine Mk2 with body shots, and leg shots. My finished result was:

Carbine:
1 shot kill to head
3-4 shots to kill with body shots
4-5 shots to kill with leg shots

Carbine Mk2:
1 shot kill to head
3-4 shots to kill with body shots
3-4 shots to kill with leg shots

That of course is without armor; and from a pretty good amount of experience with gunfights, armor will take 1-2 shots from a rifle before health starts to be taken.

So, to make things simple, i'll use this as a foundation:
Cops can kill in 3-4 body shots, Civs can kill in 4-6 (assuming the officer is wearing armor)

With that, when you factor in: Criminal first shot advantage, (cops don't shoot first in 99% of cases) the scope in and starting to shoot time for the cops upon BEING shot at, criminals can easily outgun a cop in a 1v1 assuming the criminal is hitting his shots, and assuming the cop doesn't land a headshot.

Super simplified version: Cops have a disadvantage in combat (aside from numbers is most cases)when everything is factored in. We are definitely NOT invincible.

 

[Chicken Noodle Soup]

Kind of based off what Alex said, I did some testing just the other night actually, all of the standard pd weapons are a 4 shot kill to the body, and the shotgun and pistol are one shots to the head. This is not very good considering this; the carbine rifle has a TON of recoil, making it almost impossible to use at a decent distant, the shotgun only works if you are right next to someone, the only really “good” weapon we have is our pistol, the combat pistol, which civs can also get im pretty sure. We have to use these against people with AKs (3 shot kill, body) and heavy revolvers (1 hit body). Not only do civs have better weapons, they also have access to armor, just like us via special milk. So no, we don’t have overpowered weapons and armor, not to mention, most cops don’t have their armor on most of the time, I personally don’t use it unless I’m in a shooting or bank robbery, and the carbine rifle has certain criteria that have to be met before it can be used by ANY officer.

 

[Legend]

Like Chicken Noodle Soup said, the Carbine and the Shotgun are not much of an advantage to police. Honestly, I’m my opinion, they’re no better than the combat pistol and are a “just for looks” thing. When it comes to combat pistol vs pistol, yes it is stronger and deserves to be stronger.