Counter-Strike Not Planned DS should have acess to votefire or voteswap

[QuickiexD]

I've noticed specifically in the early mornings/very late nights when admins aren't on that there are several people who like to do whatever because "no admins no rules!!!" And personally, I think having to votekick (because I havent seen a situation where we need to voteban in the past month and a half ive been DS) isnt always the best case scenario because they can just join back and repeat the same offense.


I think giving DS the option to !votefire or !voteswap would help with this problem. !votefire to fire the warden if they are delaying etc. and !voteswap would also get the 15 minute ct ban. I think this would be a good idea because most of the people who break the rules are on CT side so it would make more sense to CT ban them instead of votekicking when they freekill so they can just join back and do it again.

Obviously the same DS votekick/ban rules apply, but I would like to hear others opinions on this. Personally, I think at least voteswap would be a really good idea.

 

[WaSe]

nah jit

DS aren't supposed to be admin assistants or mini-admins. If there's not enough admins, leadership would do a promo list.

 

[QuickiexD]

nah jit

DS aren't supposed to be admin assistants or mini-admins. If there's not enough admins, leadership would do a promo list.

Then why do we have access to votekick/voteban? Might as well take those away too then, right?

I feel its not much asking for a simple !voteswap command when admins aren't online. It doesn't make us mini-admins in my opinion.

 

[Luffy]

I'm going to have to say no to this... like WaSe said, DS isn't supposed to be admin assistants/mini-admins; if you're having trouble with a guard/warden, you can always do "& Hey, we're having trouble with a warden/guard on jailbreak, we need help." Even tho there arent admins on Jailbreak, there could be admins on other csgo/cs-source servers that can hop on and help

 

[WaSe]

Then why do we have access to votekick/voteban? Might as well take those away too then, right?

Yeah.

 

[EchoFX]

Then why do we have access to votekick/voteban? Might as well take those away too then, right?

I feel its not much asking for a simple !voteswap command when admins aren't online. It doesn't make us mini-admins in my opinion.

I completely agree that votekick/voteban should be removed, as well. What a great suggestion!

People who abuse those privileges get it removed pretty quickly though. Having access to even more of these commands would definitely add to the whole "mini-admins/paid admin" problem of DS already. So, it'll never happen.

Use the & chat command to contact an admin on another server if you're having issues.

 

[Hero]

The main problem for administration in most Divisions is Nationality, I know myself that at certain times, there are no administrators awake because of time zones. This causes chaos in the Servers until 1-2 eG or eGO Admins are online to put moderation onto the server they are connected to.

As WaSe said, if there was a lack of admins, they would do a promo list. Dedicated Supporter allows the =(e)= to take action but I also agree that it doesn't really have a point. Its not like you can go, Why did you kill ___? Respond by saying the reason in all chat.

But being honest, theres not a large problem with administration. But Dedicated Supporter is better off just being for Supporting eGO and Standing Out in-game and for some perks.

 

[Wahtur]

DS having voteban is already a bit much, and a votekick is already enough to get them off of ct.

 

[QuickiexD]

I'm going to have to say no to this... like WaSe said, DS isn't supposed to be admin assistants/mini-admins; if you're having trouble with a guard/warden, you can always do "& Hey, we're having trouble with a warden/guard on jailbreak, we need help." Even tho there arent admins on Jailbreak, there could be admins on other csgo/cs-source servers that can hop on and help

In my own experience, specifically for jailbreak, not once have I seen an admin respond to a cross server request. I can't remember who said this, but I vaguely recall more than just one admin saying they wont or don't do anything on JB because they themselves don't know the rules. (Not saying every admin should but at least give an effort when people are calling for help)

I completely agree that votekick/voteban should be removed, as well. What a great suggestion!

People who abuse those privileges get it removed pretty quickly though. Having access to even more of these commands would definitely add to the whole "mini-admins/paid admin" problem of DS already. So, it'll never happen.

Use the & chat command to contact an admin on another server if you're having issues.

What I said in response to Martin applies here also but I'd like to add that I don't think DS at this current moment are "mini-admins". Just because we have limited access to votekick/voteban doesn't make us anything more than a DS. They're just part of the small list of perks we have. Although I don't really care if they get taken away because I only pay for a colored name and chat text.

DS having voteban is already a bit much, and a votekick is already enough to get them off of ct.

In the past month and a half of me having DS, not once have I myself nor any other DS i know have had to use voteban for anything. So I don't really care about that one. But votekick gets them off of CT yes, but at low player hours when the same people queue for CT with priority they can easily join back and get CT again.

The main problem for administration in most Divisions is Nationality, I know myself that at certain times, there are no administrators awake because of time zones. This causes chaos in the Servers until 1-2 eG or eGO Admins are online to put moderation onto the server they are connected to.

As WaSe said, if there was a lack of admins, they would do a promo list. Dedicated Supporter allows the =(e)= to take action but I also agree that it doesn't really have a point. Its not like you can go, Why did you kill ___? Respond by saying the reason in all chat.

But being honest, theres not a large problem with administration. But Dedicated Supporter is better off just being for Supporting eGO and Standing Out in-game and for some perks.

To be fair, if its better off being a supporting thing instead of this "mini-admin" they should just take away our voteban/votekick privileges then.

I get the time zone difference and how some people can't be on at certain times. It's not like DS use these commands 24/7 anyways, because it's only for a few hours in the early mornings/late nights where nobody in leadership is on, and sometimes we don't even have to use them. It's not like we're asking to be able to use this command whenever we want.

 

[kuantum]

Nah fam, votekick and voteban are trackable. Voteswap and votefire are commands that people will always say yes to and can ruin a round.

 

[EchoFX]

QuickiexD I'm telling you right now, it's not gonna happen. I would save your time and energy writing out long-winded replies cause it's not going to happen.

 

[MS]

I personally imagine DS having votekick/ban as a last resort method of enforcement. As in, you should never have to use these commands, and, if it ever does get to the point where you would have to use these commands, you definitely would skip to the kick and then ban commands. I don't see a reason to encourage voting for smaller infractions.

It's an emergency backup for DS, a freekill doesn't require an "emergency" swap. Playing T games doesn't require an "emergency" swap, same with delaying. A mass freekill, however, does require an "emergency" ban (if no admins are present).

 

[ghost]

using these commands is literally mini admining. idk why you are saying none of it is because thats what it is. if someone is being so incredibly disruptful that it gets to the point of kick or ban you use those

 

[QuickiexD]

QuickiexD I'm telling you right now, it's not gonna happen. I would save your time and energy writing out long-winded replies cause it's not going to happen.

It's a good thing this is only a suggestion thread and I'm trying to explain my thought process more clearly for the cons I am receiving. I wont take it personally if its not added. You're hostile for no reason <3

Nah fam, votekick and voteban are trackable. Voteswap and votefire are commands that people will always say yes to and can ruin a round.

.... make them trackable

using these commands is literally mini admining. idk why you are saying none of it is because thats what it is. if someone is being so incredibly disruptful that it gets to the point of kick or ban you use those

Different points of view.

I personally imagine DS having votekick/ban as a last resort method of enforcement. As in, you should never have to use these commands, and, if it ever does get to the point where you would have to use these commands, you definitely would skip to the kick and then ban commands. I don't see a reason to encourage voting for smaller infractions.

It's an emergency backup for DS, a freekill doesn't require an "emergency" swap. Playing T games doesn't require an "emergency" swap, same with delaying. A mass freekill, however, does require an "emergency" ban (if no admins are present).

I would disagree only for the case of a freekill. Because this gets abused heavily regardless if admins are on and because, like when admins are on, everything 9/10 requires proof before an admin does anything nowadays. If someone is continously freekilling, they deserve to be swapped. But this also leads into the just ban them action so this doesn't help my case.

Oh well.

 

[EchoFX]

QuickiexD The fact you don't think it's mini-admining isn't a difference of opinion; your opinion is just wrong. It is mini-admining. That's literally exactly what it is. Paying to have admin powers.

It - will - never - happen.

And I'm not being hostile at all. I'm not cussing at you or insulting you. I'm just telling you how it is. That's not "being hostile."

Oh well.

 

[Jacko]

Hey QuickiexD

We discussed this suggestion with AT+ and decided that this is not needed at the moment.

MS summed it up pretty well:

I personally imagine DS having votekick/ban as a last resort method of enforcement. ...

It's an emergency backup for DS, a freekill doesn't require an "emergency" swap. Playing T games doesn't require an "emergency" swap, same with delaying. A mass freekill, however, does require an "emergency" ban (if no admins are present).

Please do not be discouraged from making future suggestions, especially for DS! We are always looking into adding new CSGO DS Perks.

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