-=-How to get all the Pyro Weapons in less than two hours -=-

Arguing with people online hardly ever yields any change of opinion,
The debates I have on other forums I go to would say otherwise. As long as both parties enter a discussion willing to change, anything is possible. If one or both parties are dead set in their ways (which you've said you are), then yes, it is like banging your head against a wall.

I think the issue being taken here is that you're coming in and essentially bragging about doing an exploit, even though it's not on eGO servers. eGO frowns on exploits in general, so I fail to see what other kind of reaction you were expecting with this thread. =o
 
Guys stop arguing, This thread was made to help those that didn't know about this, able to do it. I for one am thankful he made this because I just like the weapons and the achievements are boring to me. Also, some achievements are just plain stupid (such as light spy while lighting cigar) and need to be farmed. Thanks for the post.
 
I think the issue being taken here is that you're coming in and essentially bragging about doing an exploit, even though it's not on eGO servers. eGO frowns on exploits in general, so I fail to see what other kind of reaction you were expecting with this thread. =o

If I was bragging about doing an exploit, I would not have included the method of performing said exploit. I'm sure that quite a few people who wanted weapons but haven't had luck in achievement servers. I've had quite a few bad experiences in achievement servers, as many people are uncooperative and go around killing each other.

Honestly, I was expecting some people to be angry, even some disgusted. I was expecting an argument, but I wasn't going to withhold information from the people who did need it, as I'm not harming those who frown up exploiting.

If it would make everyone happy, I could have it locked.
 
for next of kindling doesn't the medic need to be healing the other person? so how could u get wit bots?
 
to unlock all 3 new pyro weapons you do not have to acheive ALL of the new acheivements...I was able to unlock all of mine the old-fashioned way and I appreciate them more for having done it that way...same for the medic stuff, too :)
 
I feel that the use of bots is fine. There's no difference between a bot, who you kill 1 second after they respawn and a friend, who you also kill 1 second after you respawn.

<EDIT>Heck, your buddy is probably off doing other things, like using the bathroom or getting a soda. So now either way you have it, bot or buddy, they are both doing nothing except letting you kill them.</EDIT>

I would personally rather use bots, as it is more convenient, and I for one, do not have to bother my friends, who probably don't want to be bothered. I don't see a difference.

Lets take the achievement where you have to reflect 100 projectiles.

W/ HUMAN AID- Your buddy fires shots at you, and you reflect them.
W/ BOT AID-Your bot fires shots at you, and you reflect them.

The difference above is that with the human aid, you're spending twice the regular time to get the achievements, as your buddy will probably want to go pyro, and have you fire shots at him. So instead of taking 1 and 1/2 hours to get your achievements, it now takes 3 hours to get your achievements.

Also, its not like you can get ALL of your achievements with bots. Take "Burn Ward" for instance, this is easily do-able on a public server. However, when you create a server with bots, its pratically impossible (at least, I have not found a way to do this succesfully).

With those reasons, I ask you, what is the difference between using bots and buddies? Other than bots getting your achievements faster.

I for one, find bots to be alot more ergonomic. I.E. You get more for your money...or time, in this case.
 
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Oh, for burn ward, you can spawn to medics, switch your class to medic, and pull out your medi-gun. The bots will follow, and then just hold fire as they heal each other. Switch to pyro, then kill.

:D
 
It DOES ruin the fun, but it does show you REALLY want to accomplish something in order to get something. As long as you don't ruin it for others, you're fine.
 
Crucifying a member because he is not getting achievements the conventional way doesn't make you a better person for it. Let AWPerator get his achievements how he wants, and you guys can get them the old fashioned way! If this truly was an exploit, valve would have already released a patch removing the achievements of people who did it this way, just like the people who earned them from sv_cheats "medic_achievements 1" or something like that. In the very least, valve would have removed this from being able to happen anymore.

Let's just all be friends :P
 
Well said, Glorious. We don't tell players how they can, or can not play the game. Whatever method they choose to get the achievements is solely up to the player.

Moderators, can we lock this thread?
 

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